donna77

basically the school have been on my 14 year old about her attendance. she missed days here n there since sept, most of them due to genuine illness. i had the 3 letters from school, first warning etc and then about 3 weeks ago she had a fall out at school and refused point blank to go to school. i was going out of my mind with worry and i had a letter from the education welfare officer. she came out to the house, my daughter wouldnt get out of bed. i explained that her behaviour was terrible as well at home and particularly worse around the time of her period, i told the ewo i was going to take her to the doctor. so we arranged a meeting at school for the next week, with her head of year and the ewo. my daughter went bk to school the day of the meeting.she explained the reasons why she wouldnt go to school , mostly because of the fall out with the friend and also because im pregnant she was worried something would happen to me when shes at school. the school straight away were mentioning caf forms. and they could do them there n then. i said no, im taking her to the doctor, i already had the appointment booked and i also said i would ask the gp to refer my daugter to camhs, for a bit of counselling wich my daughter had agreed to. so they werent very happy but they said ok, and they said if she takes any more days off they will require a doctors note, or better still, permission to speak with the doctor on the phone.i said ok.i took my daugter to the gp who agreed to refer her to camhs if that was what she wanted and they put her on the pill to see if her hormones were to blame for her moods, for 3 months. my daughter went bk to school for 2 weeks and i changed my number within that time. i rang the school office (which i have a record of the call in my call log on my phone) to notify them that i had changed my number. i was told i need to put it in writing and they didnt take the number there n then.last week towards the end of the week my daughhter wasnt feeling well, genuinely, she was cold and tired and had a cold coming on and lost her appetite,but she went to school on the thursday. i sent the letter with her about the change of phone number.she handed it in. on friday morning the cold had worsened, she was acheing all over and just not herself.i know it was genuine.so i called the gp at 8.3o am for a same day appt. they had none left. they said we can get a doctor to call u bk, but i thought thats only for emergencies and i said no as i knew it only needed some paracetomol and rest.i rang the school absence number and left a voice mail, saying she was absent and explaning i had been unable to get a same day apptmt. i said if anyone needs to speak to me , call me. i have a call log on my phone also of the doctor call and the call i made to school. i didnt hear from them. so today, i have a letter, dated friday(the day she was off) saying that i need to update the school with my number for emergencies... then about concerns for a pupil etc, and they have arranged an appmt for me to come in a sign caf forms on tueday when they go bk next week. they say thhey would prefer me to be present and fill the forms myself, but if i cant attend they will fill them in my absence and make the referral?? are they allowed to do this???? i know at the meeting they werent happy that i hadnt accepted the caf, and they mentioned that unauthorized absences affected thheir ofsted etc.I told them that i would not tolerate her staying off for no reason and i contacted them each time she refused to attend over that 2 weeks. they more or less jumped to the conclusion that i had been covering for her with the previous absences which were genuine.can anyone advise. i am not willing to do a caf and neither is my daughter, i have took the necessary steps to get her help with her moods at the gp and the camhs referral. that was what we agreed. i had provided the school with my new number even it was the previous day , and i had rang 2 weeks earlier to give them it over the phone but was told to put in writing.my daughters attendance was around 85% or just under. everything is ok at school now and she has sorted her issues with the firend and walked away from the friendship.i am going to ring them first thing on monday and explain what has happened, but if they insist on the caf referral and i refuse what will be the next step? who will they refer me to or will i get a fine or what will happen. thanks in advance.

Posted on: May 28, 2013 - 9:22pm
Hopeful
DoppleMe

It says on the government website that informed consent is mandatory. So you don't have to co-operate.

http://www.education.gov.uk/childrenandyoungpeople/strategy/integratedworking/caf/a0068957/the-caf-process

Posted on: May 28, 2013 - 10:14pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi donna77

You could indeed refuse but the school still has the right to say they have a concern for a child and this can be flagged up on a central database. When more than one organisation expresses this concern it is likely that the family will receive a contact with social services.

I am really shocked, however, that the reason they have a concern is that it affects their OFSTED not that they are worried about your daughter! She has a lot on her plate at the moment and their treatment of her sounds pretty unsupportive. Do they have any counsellors at the school? or at least a Pupil Spport Officer?

So let's look at what can you do on a practical level.

I don't think it sounds as if you will get a fine or anything. And you can refuse to do a CAF for the time being. However, get a letter from the GP, get a letter from CAHMS and start to build your case and be aware that the school may want to have a meeting about your child and can take steps to expel her (thats why you need to get your letters ready)

I also think you can help your daughter a lot by spending GOOD one to one time with her, she will have been affected by your anxiety and everything that is going on for you right now and she needs to feels safe. I know there might be a move on the cards but she needs reassurance that everything will be OK, that no matter where you live you will be together and then do some NICE things together. You might enjoy that too!

Posted on: May 29, 2013 - 8:23am

donna77

hi everyone and thanks for your replies,

im not willing to do the caf now because she was genuinely sick , and i didnt break the agreement we had with the exception of being unable to get a doctors appointment. i havent had a letter from camhs yet as shhe was only referred a week or 2 before. they said there is a waiting list. the school didnt want me to pursue camhs as they said there was a 6 month waiting list and they kept hinting at a caf. them wanting permission to speak to my daughhters gp directly on thephone also give me cause for concern. regarding a letter from the gp, i phoned at 8.30 am for a same day appointment and there was none. they didnt take my name or anything. im not going to be bullied into something when im helpng my daughter in the way we had agreed.why would they write in the letter though that they would prefer me to be present but in my absence they will fill thhe forms and make the referral? oh well i will ring them on monday and explain,and if they go ahead with the meeting(which they know i cant make as its at 9 am and they know i have other kids to bring to primary school 2 buses away from them)then they do what they need to do. i have kept my end of the agreement and i cant help it if there are no same day appointments. it did not warrant a visit to A&e eithher.

Posted on: May 29, 2013 - 10:16am

donna77

my daugghter was having mentoring at school,. and they also booked her into a stress workshop at school which she didnt go to , as shhe saw a the people lining up for it , and they were all the school troublemakers. my daughteris well behaved at school and she doesnt want to mix with them so she didnt go and went on to her next class.i am absolutely fine right now with regards to anxiety, i spoke to my midwife and all other people concerned and things with my daughhter are fine.will i get a visit from social services when i refuse the caf? they are more than welcome to visit, but im not signing caf forms as everything is as it was before and from my very first meeting with the ewo she mentioned caf. they also did NOT tell me it was voluntary, it was a friennd who told me it was. im glad i did not sign it on the first meeting.

Posted on: May 29, 2013 - 10:22am

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi donna77, I did not say you WILL get a visit from social services, I said that  the school has the right to refer your family to SS, and IF they do, then you may get a visit if other organisations have also expressed a concern. Sounds to me as if you have got your head round this now....glad you are feeling less anxious too Smile

Posted on: May 29, 2013 - 1:15pm