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6 months on.. when does the pain end???

katiegargar

Hello,

i am new to this so please bare with me.....

Last xmas my husband of 14 yrs told me he didn't love me anymore..... big shock... didn't see that comming at all! We tried for 6 months.. counselling ect... didn't work. He left the family home in june last yr. We have a 4 yr old son together who is with me and his dad has 1-2 weekly contact. He has a new girlfriend and seems to be enjoying his new life, but i cant seem to move on.. i know our marriage wasn't a happy one and i know things will be better in the future.. but when does the heart catch up with the head...... WHEN DOES THE PAIN STOP!!!!!!!! or how do you make it stop?????? HELP

Need help.... K

Posted on: January 4, 2010 - 10:16pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Hi katiegargar

There's no answer to that one really. I just feel that you suddenly get to the point where you look back and realise that things are that bit easier to deal with.

I found the hard bit was The Git (my ex) choosing to do what he wanted ahead of having an interest in the children, where as I had to deal with the fall out.

I try to have random madness during the day with mainly me singing - badly (deliberately, of course :shock: ) and dancing around the kitchen as much as wonky legs allow me to.

The people here are brilliant, and hopefully we can offer you some support and some laughter.

Posted on: January 4, 2010 - 11:36pm
shortie2

I agree with sparkling lime theres no answer to when the pain ends. i suppose in a way you know your self when it ends. Sorry i cant be of much help as my longest relationship was with my daughters dad and that was 27 months. sorry.

i hope you can move on soon and hope that you will be a happier person soon.

wendy x

Posted on: January 5, 2010 - 10:48am
hazeleyes
DoppleMe

Hi katiegargar
Welcome to One Space. I am so sorry to hear that you're going through so much pain. Time is a great healer, but unfortunately no one can say how long it will take you. I guess it is still early days for you anyway if your ex only moved out in June. Eventually, you will be able to move on, so don't worry about that!!
How is your 4 year old doing with it all? Do you have family and friends for support? Keep posting on here. Theres a great bunch of people around who can offer you loads of advice etc. Theres lots of forums too, so loads to chat about!
It will get better for you, so hang on in there.
Take care
Alison
x :)

Posted on: January 5, 2010 - 12:38pm
Claire-Louise

Hi Katiegargar
Welcome to Onespace! I am glad you have found this site as there are a really lovely bunch of very supportive people on here who have lots of shared experiences to offer.
I am sorry to hear about your situation and that you are suffering frm the fall out. Do you have a support network of friends and family around you who you can talk to about this ad who can help in any way?
Have you thought about finding out about counselling? it might be something that you can access through your GP surgery. I sounds as though you are still hurting and need to talk to someone to be able to rationalise it all in your head. The Samaritans are always there if you need them and are very supportive. Their number is 08457909090. I know quite a few people from this site have used them in the past and really sign their praises. Otherwise something like Relate:
http://www.relate.org.uk/home/index.html
It is always really hard when something comes like that, out of the blue and the other person seems to be getting on with their life and you are the one left reeling, wondering where it all came from and what is going on. I think it is really good to talk if you can. Please feel free to come back here and rant as for many people that is a really good outlet.
Do you work? Are you still living in the family home? How is your son coping? How is the access going?
As the others have said, time is a great healer but it does take time. I hope you can come back here and we can help a bit - you will be surprised how many people have been through similar situations and finding somewhere where you are not the only one can be a real relief.
Speak again soon
C-L

Posted on: January 5, 2010 - 3:11pm
katiegargar

Evening all,

Thank you all so much for your kind and extremly prompt support. you do feel so lonely when your going through all this Sh*t! All of my friends are all happily married and are getting sick of me going on about how crap my life is..... So this on line group is going to be a life line.. Again thank you for taking the time to reply to me.

A bit about me, as i say married for 8 yrs with him for 6 yrs before that, my son is nearly 5 and he is my world...it all came as a complete shock last yr, but i am picking up the pieces of my life and getting on (i sound like a song!!) I work part time as a nursing sister, which fits in well with the work life balance thingy.... Since HE left i have lost 3 stone (another 3 to go) i joined the gym and go 4 times aweek, i am doing a course at the local learning centre re doing maths and english, i have a great social life (girly nights out), i have amazing days/weekends out with my son doing lots of fun stuff, i live a much fuller life than when i was with him..... i know this time is about me and living my life well, healthy and happy.... so why am i holding back the tears daily.... i am sick of giving HIM every second thought of my day.

My son seems to be doing ok... friends have paid me great complements saying he is a very normal 4 yr old. i do get moments from him, like this weekend.... with him saying..'why cant you be daddy's friend anymore and when can daddy come home....and you made daddy sad'.... i really struggle with those comments.

Money wise HE is helping... i will have to sell the house and have been accepted for a key worker house, i just need to wait until one comes up in my town. i do want to be £ independant from him but i am not selling the house and renting. I want a divorce and change my name but they cost money.

I am seeing a counsellor through my gp, it has taken 6 months to get an appontment but it starts next week and it cant come soon enough.

Again thank you all so much, i will be a regular on open space and may be one day i will be able to support someone through their difficult time????

Kate

Posted on: January 5, 2010 - 9:15pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Hi Kate

The tears will eventually lessen.

HE needs to stop telling your son that you've made HIM sad. That can't help.

I lost three stone when I got divorced - and without trying! Though most has crept on since I've not been able to walk the miles I used to.

You're doing so well, and have a goal - which I'm certain you will achieve.

This site does help, as it does make you realise that there are a few of us about.

Take care

Posted on: January 5, 2010 - 9:34pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Dear katiegargar

So sorry to read that you are still going through a very painful time.

It sounds as though everything that you are doing in your life is exactly what you should be doing at this stage ie. friends, housing, good work hours, re-educating , gym, counselling etc, so stop for a moment and give yourself a pat on the back as it has been a HUGE upheaval in your life.

As others have said, time is the only healer. It must be hard to see your ex with a new person and seemingly so happy. I think the counselling will really help with you thinking of him all the time, you have had your dreams/future/stability taken from you, it is bound to have a MAJOR impact.

It is hard when our children start asking questions and we know that they are thinking that it is all our fault. I think our role changes from when we were 'Mummy & Daddy' to our children, to when we raise them on our own. I think we need to become more honest and upfront with them. We can't hide so much from them (which isn't always a bad thing! :o ) The response that I would give my daughter when she was four and telling me that I made Daddy sad would be, that Daddy made mummy sad too, but I think he is crazy for leaving our lovely home and family. It was his choice to leave. I think it is also fair to say that you miss Daddy too and feel sad that he has left you. This gives your son a chance to recognise his own feelings, by seeing that you share them.

Quote:
may be one day i will be able to support someone through their difficult time????

I am sure you will! Your life WILL change and maybe when you are thinking and feeling sad about your ex, think about how much he has let, not only you down, but your son too.

Have you been watching Nurse Jackie??? ;)

Posted on: January 6, 2010 - 10:21am
hazeleyes
DoppleMe

Hi Kate
Most of my friends have money, (unlike me), so I can relate to you saying this. Except of course, I'm moaning about the money situation not any partners :lol: I find myself going to say something, and then think twice. Sooooooo, I get on One Space, and have a little rant ;)

Quote:
! All of my friends are all happily married and are getting sick of me going on about how crap my life is.....

Take care
Alison
x :)

Posted on: January 6, 2010 - 1:34pm
pinkgrapefruit

Hi Kate,

Nice to 'meet' you. My ex left just over 2 years ago after we had a horrible year trying to make things work (well I tried, he had affairs :o ). It does get better tho, it just takes time. For me its been a gradual thing, the bad days just slowly got fewer and further apart. There is a great sense of achievement when you do cope and you should be proud of everything that you are managing to do at the moment.

The first year or so I was on my own I found the weekends the worst as, like you, all my friends are married and I didn't feel I could disturb their weekends. Now I've realised tho that the worst someone can say is no, and that actually never happens! Whenever I have suggested meeting up with friends and their children at weekends they have jumped at the chance - often to have a break from their partners!! Also I've beginning to ask for help much more, whether that is asking a friend to help me put stuff in the loft, to getting someone to deliver my Christmas tree etc, 99.9% of people seem to genuinely love helping and it makes life so much easier than when I was fiercely determined to do absolutely everything on my own.

Good luck with the counselling, I'm sure that will help a lot.

I find onespace incredibly useful, there are lots of very wise people here, hopefully you will keep us up to date with how things go.

Bec x

Posted on: January 6, 2010 - 8:37pm
katiegargar

GMO you lot are amazing....... again thank you soooo much.... it is sooo refreshing to hear from normal stong people who been through the same poo...... you lot have given me so much strength in the last 2 days. you are all brill, i wish i had found this site sooner.

i have had a much better day today.. new challenges at work... it has given me a new focus....

Question..... What have you done on a really bad emotional day??? Is it anger, sadness, tears, tantrums... or chocolate!!!!!

Loving 'Nurse Jackie', i think it is made by the same people who made 'Dexter', love the humour, i loved the bit with the ear down the loo, it made me laugh out load....

i am new to on line groups.... any tips on best way to navigate this site, i want to join other people's discussions but the amount of pages and the time past it seems difficult to join in..... i am sure its not, it just my lack of experiance.

Posted on: January 6, 2010 - 10:12pm
shortie2

For the emiontal days i would have to say go for the chocolate. You can always go back on a diet the next day. lol. Chocolate is tasty.

thats why i like this site as well katiegargar. Everyone is so strong,there for each other etc help you when you need advice etc its so comforting.

Posted on: January 6, 2010 - 10:22pm
hazeleyes
DoppleMe

Hi katiegargar
I will try my best with navigation, (bearing in mind, I can't drive, and I definately can't read maps) :lol: If you scroll up you will see Board Index, underneath that or below, (senior moment here) you will see 'unanswered posts', etc. Click on one of these, and then just repeat the process.
You are more than welcome, and we'll look forward to chatting.
Please forgive me if I've navigated wrong, someone with intelligence will be along shortly I'm sure. :roll: :roll:
Glad you've had a better day.
Take care
Alison
x :)

Posted on: January 6, 2010 - 10:26pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Bad days - I'd just cry... I'd just tell the children that I was sad. I couldn't stop, so they had to deal with it!! :lol:

Posted on: January 6, 2010 - 11:32pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi katiegargar

Fantastic to hear that you are finding these boards supportive, remember too that we have all been where you are in one way or other in the past. So in answer to your topic question, when does the pain end??? Someday soon, is the best answer I can give!!

As for navigating the boards I would suggest that you go to the Welcome to the Parenting Alone Online Group page (click on the breadcrumbs above, where it says HomeWelcome to the Parenting Alone Online Group page ) then click on Mark forums read (which is just below the FAQs Members Logout buttons on the right hand side).

This will then make all the circles next to the group titles normal colour. THEN when you visit again if there is a new message the circle will become red and you can go straight there. Once in the group you can open a topic and click on First unread message (top right hand side) and go straight to first unread message! Easy huh!!

Any probs please ask again!

Bad days.....duvet and telly. It is good not to ignore bad days, I loved it when I was told to really get blue on a down day, don't try and hide it, wallow in it, because then you let it all out and feel better and want to do something else or move on the next day or two. How are you dealing with it?

Posted on: January 8, 2010 - 10:14am
Claire-Louise

Hi Katiegargar.
Thanks for your post. it is really good to hear that you have found this site supportive and I hope you keep coming back as it is a really great bunch of people who visit regularly and have really got to know each other and be truely supportive and get some real friendships from the site.
I would echo what Anna has suggested that you 'mark all as read' and then the next time you visit, you go to the topics that are red in colour and read those and get stuck in there. In the mean time you can have a look round the titles of the topics and open what is of interest to you but go to the end of the topic to see what was written most recently otherwise you will be in the site night and day trying to catch up!
As for the bad days a really good cry and chocolate alway sorts me out a treat!
Cheers C-L

Posted on: January 8, 2010 - 3:20pm
katiegargar

Hello all,

Having a really dificult time with my son.... he says that he is very sad that daddy does not live here anymore, my ex says that he has explained to him why and he needs to except this is how it is!!! our son is 4 nearly 5, when i try and talk to him about it he says it makes him sad and does not want to talk about it any more. i tell him he needs to talk to daddy about this when he calls but i dont think he want to upset his daddy....... and the ex just brushes his questions to one side!!!

I hate seeing my little one so sad and hate his father even more. the timing is strange as M moved out over 7 months ago now and when he was here he was always at work, so its like i have been a single parent for 3 yrs. but i found out over xmas that he has moved in with his not so new girl friend and he is distracted and not seeing his little boys pain as he is having tooo much fun with his new play thing!!!!! I HATE HIM!!!!

We have lots of cuddles and i tell him that mummy loves him twice as much and we have a new family now, it breaks my heart, this wasn't how my life and his were ment to be. HELP

K

Posted on: January 10, 2010 - 10:04pm
hazeleyes
DoppleMe

Hi katiegargar
The poor little fella, he is so upset, and he certainly does need his dad to sit down with him and explain things again, (100 more times if necessary). It is a lot for an adult to take in, let alone a child! Your son has questions like you say, and if you can answer them, then why does the ex brush them aside? Could he be feeling guilty?
Just keep reassuring your son, as you are doing. In time, he will settle down more.
I have never been in your position, my son's father never lived with us, or even saw his son til he was 5, (and only twice since then). My son used to, (and occassionally) still asks all sorts of questions about why his father didn't live here etc etc. That was hard enough, so I can't imagine what you are going through.
How are you doing with the chocs????
Take care, and one day at a time, you're doing really well at the moment.
Sending hugs your way
Alison
x :)

Posted on: January 11, 2010 - 7:13am
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi katiegargar

Ditto everything alisoncam just said! You have to find your way of dealing with your son's enquiries as it sounds as though your ex may be a little preoccupied.

Perhaps you can say to your son, I can see that you are feeling very hurt/sad/upset by daddy not being here, lets go and watch Thomas the Tank Engine....make a fruit salad.......get your dinosaurs out.

I think there could be such a mix of emotions for him and if you can nip it in the bud whenever he raises questions, he will understand that you have heard him and acknowledged his discomfort and then be ready to play. At his age I find they are quite easily distracted, so as much as I imagine you want to explain EVERYTHING to him so that he has a clear view of it and can move it. Just keep reassuring him and then change the subject. He will learn what is going on, and you don't have the answers for your ex. Your boy just needs to know that you are there and not going anywhere and I love it that you tell him twice as much. Just try not to dwell on it for too long, or let him dwell on it for too long. In a couple of years time this will all be in the past! :)

How are you doing??

Posted on: January 11, 2010 - 10:44am
shortie2

I think your ex is forgetting that your boy is main priority. Your ex is forgetting that your son is so young and needs alot of support. I mean to deal with the fact that daddy isnt going to be around alot. At the end of the day your ex is gonna regret not being involved in his son's life so much.

Posted on: January 11, 2010 - 9:13pm
hazeleyes
DoppleMe

Hi shortie
Some absent parents don't regret it I have to say. My son's sperm doner doesn't regret it for a minute. He also has an 8 year old daughter that he hasn't seen, and doesn't regret that either. He has had enough opportunity, but just isn't interested or remotely bothered to be honest.
I do hope all other absent parents will regret missing out on their children, but not all do I'm afraid, and that is just a hard fact of life.
How's the packing going??? 8-)
Take care
Alison
x :)

Posted on: January 11, 2010 - 9:49pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

hello katiegargar

I have said hello to you on the other thread and now find this one! I have been on hols for a few days so just ctahcing up

I agree with Anna that distraction is the key, and whilst it is great ti acknowledge his feelings, there is no need to go into it in great depth as you would with an older child.

Yes, dad needs to take more interest but one of the most important lessons I have learned in life is we can't make anyone do anything

One way to help would be to "normalise" the situation. Are there any other children he knows that have a lone parent? You could mention them.There are a couple of good books as well: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Two-Homes-Claire-Masurel/dp/0744589258/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263277312&sr=1-1 and http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dinosaurs-Divorce-Guide-Changing-Families/dp/0316109967/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b

Posted on: January 12, 2010 - 7:24am
Claire-Louise

Hi katiegargar
How is your son doing today? it is really hard for young children to get their heads round as everything they read and see always portrays happy endings etc. I hope you are able to check out those books that Louise mentioned? I think it is really important to keep reassuring your son that you love him and his dad does too and try to answer his questions as simply and honestly as you can. However the distraction technique that Anna mentioned is also useful so that you and he don't dwell on things either.
Good luck
C-L

Posted on: January 12, 2010 - 9:10pm