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Bubblegum
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Interesting read...

Posted on: March 30, 2010 - 12:17pm
sparklinglime
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That does make an interesting read.

My mum started work the day I started school - I was four and a half.  The key would usually be left in the door so I could let myself in.  I walked the quarter of a mile home from school alone - the teachers would cross us over the road first.

I did have two foster sisters who'd arrive home a bit later than me.  They were the biggest challenge as they would bully me (and hurt me and break my toys).

The horrid part was being ill and on my own.

It didn't do me any harm, really.  Yet my parents were not close by if anything had happened, and it could be two or three hours before they did get home from work.

I understood that they needed to work.

I know when I had the children I was determined not to be in a position where I wasn't there for them - which is why I worked from home and then worked the nights.

 

Posted on: March 30, 2010 - 1:29pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Sounds like that has thrown up some memories for you, sparkling lime.

I have always believed in encouraging my children to be as independent as possible and to learn to look after themselves. As a result they CAN look after themselves. I know that not everyone would agree with me....my sister has a boy just turned 15 and will not leave him on his own for a whole day, not because it is not safe but because he cannot entertain himself for that long.

Playing devil's advocate, whilst there is no doubt that many parents find it challenging to "let go" as their children grow up, I would like to suggest that this can be even harder for lone parents, as we live our lives more round the children than partnered people.

Posted on: March 30, 2010 - 1:48pm
Eeyore73

Hi All,

When is the right time to let kids have independance.  I was very anxious at our old house when they wanted to go to the park, across the road, but then I used to think I was allowed to walk from school when I was 6. Since moving I am all for the kids having independence. L (10) goes off into town with her friends on Saturdays, they go to the park and friends houses.  I will leave them in the house, to go to the neighbours or pop to the local shop 2minute walk.  The only time I dont want them out is when is starts to get dark in the evenings.

Mx

Posted on: March 31, 2010 - 11:27am
Anna
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Hi all

I agree I think that it is important for our children to have independance and to have parents who trust them, thus showing them that we expect them to be trustworthy.

I think the rule about being home before dark is a good one while they are younger, however there does come a time (especially winter) when they perhaps need to be out after dark and as a lone parent, you can't always collect them.

I believe that as long as our children are aware of the dangers that are out there and teach them how to act responsibly, they'll be just fine.

A good exercise to do with your children is to ask them how they would react/deal with different situations. i.e

Who would they go to if they lost their key and couldn't get home and you are in work?

If you fell in the home, where and how would they get help?

If they had a problem that they didn't feel they could talk to you about, who would they turn to.

I did this with my daughter when she was about 7 and was really surprised by her responses and her ingenuity of dealing with things!

Posted on: April 1, 2010 - 3:39pm
Bubblegum
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I just did that with my son (7) and I was surprised, surprised he knew his address as I've always made a point of not telling them in case they let slip with their mum.

Still, that's not a problem seeing as they don't see here any more... but! I asked him who he thought he could talk to if he didn't want to talk to me about something and he said Angie (the dog)

But! other than all that they are not allowed out of my sight until they are at least thirty... and I've already told my daughter that she isn't allowed boyfriends and have discussed with my brother in law and nephews that should she bring any home we are all going to be sat at the kitchen table all rugged, manly and unshaven sharpening knives and cleaning guns, looking as menacing as possible... unfortunately my sister has told her to just take them (boyfriends) round to her house as she wears the trousers there.

Posted on: April 1, 2010 - 5:47pm
Anna
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Ha ha! Your poor daughter, although this will probably have a good influence on her, as long as she doesn't come home with the toughest, roughest, oil stained, chain swinging chunk of them all!!

It's great to hear that your son has your dog to talk to!  My daughter said she would turn to the woman at the sweetshop if I hadn't come home, then if she was hungry she could eat sweets!!

 

Happy Easter to you and yours, any plans??

Posted on: April 2, 2010 - 1:08pm
sparklinglime
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Hahahaha!!!  My eldest says that when my daughter brings home a boyfriend that he's going to be giving him 20 questions (at least).  Yeah, right.  I can see my daughter, who's 2 years younger than her big brother allowing that to happen.

 

Anyhow, we were teasing her before Christmas about who she was givng cards too, and she mentioned a particular lad's name.

"What's the point of love anyway?  It doesn't bring you any joy" she said, and flounced upstairs.  :-D

I'm afraid I didn't follow her.  Looked at the oldest, grinned and came back into the kitchen...

Posted on: April 2, 2010 - 1:44pm

Bubblegum
DoppleMe

Anna!

An old flame of mine, here mum told me that when she was about seven she walked to a shop across the road and told the shop keeper that she was being imprisoned by her evil step mum and that she wasn't allowed any sweets and could she have some please..

:)

My plans for Easter are that we are going to walk up a mountain and camp on the top of it.. if it's OK weather wise.. when I informed them of this my daughter said... I hope it rains then.

Posted on: April 2, 2010 - 6:13pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Ahh the old hansel and gretel story! I hoped it worked for her...once anyway! :)

sparklinglime, although my daughter isn't showing an interest in boys at the moment I am absolutely dreading that first heartache, OH MY how it hurts, when you are inconsoleable.  Has your daughter been there yet? She obviously has had someone let her down, or was she talking about her dad!

I hope the weather holds up this weekend, from memory the sun usually shines at Easter.  Watch out bubblegum, your daughter is going to turn on you and need hair straightners and mirrors before she agrees to go anywhere! :)

Posted on: April 3, 2010 - 2:31pm

sparklinglime
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I think my daughter was referring to her dad...

She has the straighteners and the earings and make-up.  Hardly ever uses them though.

Posted on: April 4, 2010 - 2:53pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Ha ha ha, sorry sparklinglime! what a perceptive little spark you have there!!

My daughter has very frizzy hair and uses her straightners regularly, she went on a coach trip to France and packed them with a european plug, I said she was crazy and to just let it be,  but no, she insisted she took them, she didn't use them at all and said it was really nice not to worry about it, they didn't stop long enough to use them so she just wore a cap instead!

As for make up, she asked me the other day, did I think it was weird that she didn't wear make up, as even her closest school pals wear eyeliner and mascara. I told her 'No' and how I had endeavoured to make her not into that kind of fakeness and to love the skin she was in, she cheered up!

Posted on: April 5, 2010 - 11:56am

sparklinglime
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I managed to get her to brush her hair before she left for the camp this morning.

She didn't see the point of brushing it though as there was a gale force wind and it was drizzling at the time.

I told her to take a hat - nope, not needed, her hair will keep her head warm.

 

**sigh**

The other two girls were just as bad mind!

Clock watching now until I pick her up tomorrow.

Nice surprise when she comes home, The Git wants to see them 6 - 9pm.  A three hour time slot **faint**

Posted on: April 5, 2010 - 6:11pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hey sparklinglime

'them' you say? Your ex is wanting to have all the children tomorrow from 6-9? Thats great news!  What are you going to do? Meet a pal in a bar? Go for a massage? I hope you arrange to do something for you rather than go home and tidy up, or sit and wait for them, unless you do this with a glass of lime cordial and cake!!

Posted on: April 6, 2010 - 5:26pm

sparklinglime
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The eldest and I went to Halfords and then Tesco (he doesn't want to see his dad yet - and likes the peace away from the other three).  It was so nice to browse and not be rushing to get back for 8pm.

A pub might have been more fun, but funds are a bit short until next week!!

Went to the in-laws yesterday and was chatting with mother-in-law who has told father-in-law about the birthdays (children's and The Git's) and the texts from The Gittess.  She then asked the children how many Easter eggs had they had and from who... none from The Git.  "That's sad" she said.  "Well" said the eldest "we've learnt not to expect anything".

I almost cried.

MIL ran off to tell FIL.

We were talking after while playing Boggle, and she said she doesn't see me as a daughter-in-law anymore but more as a half-daughter!! 

As I said to her, we'd have been lost without their support. 

Driving back I asked how many times Dad had taken them to see nana and granddad.  Twice in six years.  If I didn't take them, what a loss to the children and their grandparents that would have been.

As MIL said though, they've never had a reason to fall out with me.  I told her that I do worry about The Git saying something that would destroy what we do have - she says that nothing could be said to destroy that.

Sorry to be rabbiting on again :-D

 

So nice to see that I don't need a calculator too ;-(

Posted on: April 8, 2010 - 2:31pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

You know sparklinglime, so many grandparents seem to lose contact with their grandchildren, so well done you for making the effort, not only for your childrens sake but the MIL and FIL too.  I know that you get support from them, but this seems to have been another selfless act from you :)

Did you know that by exercising your brain with our little CAPTCHA puzzle every day we were helping to keep your brain young and spritely!  Lets see how many start heading for a decline!! (Only kidding!!)

Posted on: April 9, 2010 - 12:46pm

sparklinglime
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Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

I will so miss the sums, and greatly appreciate that it was done for our benefit!! :-D

 

I have to say that I have been lucky with my ex-in-laws as they met in 1988 and married in 1989.  I've known father-in-law since 1983 (he was a widower).  I'm sure had his mother been alive things would have been very different.

It's equally hard, I'm sure for parents to see that their own 'child' is in the wrong, and can't always see as far as the grandchildren (if any of this makes sense!).

Posted on: April 9, 2010 - 1:22pm

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

I think it is very admirable for a parent to be able to see the wrong in their children.  It must be really tough. 

I am not very good at doing that now, when my girl is 15, let alone if she was a man. Although because of my life experiences I know i wouldn't support my son if he didn't do anything other than right by a woman who he had children with.

Its difficult though.

Posted on: April 10, 2010 - 10:42am

Bubblegum
DoppleMe

I just came here to say that my children are perfect and faultless and can never do wrong.. :D

..and then I woke up.

Posted on: April 10, 2010 - 9:41pm

hazeleyes
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Haha Bubblegum.

I do see some of the wrong in C....., but then when his friends are round, I also see the same thing in them too, so I do try now not 'have a go'.

 

Posted on: April 11, 2010 - 7:56am

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Yes, whenever I get cross with my 15 year old, I remind myself what his friends are like!

Sparkling lime, it is great the children have such a strong relationship with their grandparents. My boys have just got back from their dad's parents. They go and stay a couple of times a year but at least there is contact. I begged them to help me when my marriage disintegrated but they thought I  was lying about what was happening. I found that very hard to forgive but thinking about it now, it must have been hard for them to think of their child in that way.

What is everyone up to today?

Posted on: April 11, 2010 - 10:28am

sparklinglime
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In our house it's me who's perfect... (yeah right, if only :-D )

It took a while for things to settle.  Had a massive row with MIL when we were emptying the house out as by then The Git had been telling all sorts.  It was six weeks before the keys were finally handed over, and I'd go in more or less every day to clean - as the children were still going there for contact time...

The Git told my MIL I'd not done a thing (******* - it is me who'd put the stars in :-D ).  A couple of weeks after I'd moved to the place I found to rent, my MIL turned up, sat down and said I'd not spoken to her for months and she wanted to know everything...

She was right.  Once I'd seen a solicitor I expected them not to speak to me and I expected them not to want to see me.  She didn't half tell me off!!  It was many months before FIL got used to it.  Sadly, he could see how things were with the behaviour of The Git.

Really, I think it's been more sad for his Dad than anyone, harder since his younger son died a few years back.

Posted on: April 11, 2010 - 11:12am

Eeyore73

Hi All,

Just read the bit about grandparents missing out.  My 2 never had the pleasure of meeting their granddads and my mum is 200 miles away, so not very frequent visits.  But EX's mum lives 2 miles away, she always helps with childcare, having them a couple of days a week during the hols so I can work.  But I did write her a letter saying that I didnt think it was fair if the only time she saw the kids was when he had them or during the school holidays.  So I asked if she would like to come to tea once a month - she jumped at it, we never had a real close relationship before but she has been amazing the last few weeks. 

We mustn't write off the other halfs parents just because thing have turned out the way they have - who knows they may even been supportive.

Posted on: April 15, 2010 - 10:28am

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

What a brilliant idea, Eeyore73, I am sure she was thrilled. So many grandparents miss out after a separation (and yes, sometimes it is their own fault) but it is great that you have kept the door open!

Posted on: April 15, 2010 - 11:35am

Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Eeyore73, that sounds fantastic that you have created a good relationship with your mother in law, I bet she really appreciates it.  With your mum so far away, I imagine you benefit from it too.

Does she use the internet?  If so there is an excellent new site called Be Grand, she might find it interesting or even useful for things to do with the children or information in being a grandparent!

Who else has a good relationship with their ex in-laws? Or wishes their relationship could be better?

Posted on: April 15, 2010 - 3:26pm