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sparklinglime
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DoppleMe

I'm putting it in this section rather than general interest as I feel it is a parent thing.

I took my son out to the pub last night.

He was 18 in December, and when his dad wanted to see him for his "special two hour slot" (long story...), I got him to dress reasonably smart as I figured his father would take him out.  He didn't.  Bought him a DVD which they watched, and the DVD has been kept, and I don't think however good a film it may be that my son will get it out again.

Now I hadn't thought of taking him.  I'm huge and disabled - in my eyes a total embarrasment.  So when my son said he'd never got is pint as a laugh talking to his mate I said I'd take him if he wanted.  He did.

We had quite a chat.  He says it's clear to them all that their father doesn't give a monkies.  The disappointment they feel is huge.  It seems they have a wonderful mother who they love very much and who has always been there for them.

(yes, I'm crying!)

He went back to early school days to all we have done.  He says his friends remember the cars (I worked hard to pay for my long wheel-base chrysler voyagers to get stuff in the boot), while he just remembers our days out.  He remembers the only time their father came - when son insisted on waiting for their father to come home to join us on the beach.  A beautiful summer evening.  The Git just sulked.  Youngest was pretty new at the time, about 5 months old.

That was the only time they ever asked their dad to come out. 

The reason why being on my own with them has been so easy.

My son is livid over The Git's birthday episode.  He is ashamed of his father.

He even discussed the time we were homeless, and how the chap I work for (and who stresses me out at time) saved the day and got the keys to the house for us after 8 weeks of waiting when the housing association wanted us to wait another two weeks at least.

He said it was the most horrible time ever - when he didn't think things could be worse...

We talked about the renault and how hard trying to repair it has made life - yet says it was worth it.  They know why we're broke with that...  We talked about the trip we had in that when his best friend joined us, and how he'll always remember that.

It was an eye opener for me.

My children are proud of me, and for all I do for them.  They're not bothered about wonky legs.  They like the fact that Scouts is giving me a lot, and the football a different angle(!). 

He's told me that they will always look after their brother with special needs too.  He'll be ok, I know, but he will need to be kept an eye on and encouraged...

One thing though, if that is how he feels about The Git, he will slowly start to influence the other three.  AND I'm not going to stop him... (yes, it's wrong, I know).

I'll probably forget all this by tomorrow - and possibly, so will my son!! lol

Posted on: March 27, 2010 - 3:24pm

Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

How absolutely utterly wonderful, sparkling lime. A conversation to treasure in your heart.

Of course they are proud of you and of course they love you but sometimes it has been hard for you to realise this.

It is not wrong at all for you to let things take their course and for them to think about their dad in any way they choose. In fact, your post is the perfect example of something Anna and I often say on here to parents of younger children: in the end the children make up their own minds and they DO understand what has gone on.

Way to go, sparkling lime, you are a star!!!!!!

Posted on: March 27, 2010 - 9:23pm
hazeleyes
DoppleMe

Ahhhh Sparkling, I'm made up for you. :)

Your children appreciate everything that you do for them, and to have a heart to heart like that with your eldest must have made you feel like the proudest Mum. You have done a wonderful job with them, and it certainly shows.

Posted on: March 30, 2010 - 12:34pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi sparklinglime,

How wonderful and life re-affirming.  What a fabulous son you have raised. Honest, open and very screwed on.

I hope that you have taken to heart what he has said, you need to hear it and not just from us!

I hope this will be the start of something new with your son, while he is up for it!

Three cheers for you and your lovely family.

PS. I also don't think it is wrong of you to let your eldest share his feelings about his father, he won't be lying and each of them have the chance to make up their own minds, it might also be refreshing to hear something negative about your ex, you may find that they all feel the same anyway, but never heard the words to express it!

Posted on: April 1, 2010 - 3:30pm
Blusey7

Sparklinglime, Can I please just say that I am so proud of you! You are a inspiration to us all. It sounds like in all your life experiences you have been a wonderful mum and to your credit your son has proved that in what he has said to you. It doesn't sound like you have ever run down your ex to your children and your son has made his own mind up along the way.

I am having problems with my ex cutting our son out of his life but wanting to spend time with our daughter. Our son is already cutting back his time with his dad as he doesn't enjoy going to see him any more (He takes him to a hotel to stay as my ex's gf refuses to have him stop over at their house - Long story) and it will only be a matter of time before he is old enough to make up his own mind whether he will want to carry on seeing him or not. I can only hope that my son will grow up to be half as intellegent and level headed as yours.

So thank you for your story, I shed a very happy tear for you too! Give yourself a huge pat on the back and a huge hug to your son too... if it doesn't embarrase him too much :-)

x Z x 

Posted on: April 1, 2010 - 11:11pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

hear hear Blusey7!

Good to hear from you, by the way. That is so sad for your son, especially if his dad treats him differently from your daughter. All you can do is give him lots of love and reassruance that you will always be there for him. I see that you have explained more about this situation on another thread on Parenting Support

Posted on: April 2, 2010 - 8:53am
sparklinglime
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DoppleMe

Thank you very much for you comments.  They make me cry - which those who 'know' me by now won't be surprised at.

I've found this week so tiring, and getting up in the mornings has been hard.  I'm getting old.

Blusey, words fail me here at what is being done to your son.  That is apalling.

I got to the point where The Git saw them all (well, at least three of them - I've got four children) or not at all.  The exception has been their birthdays - which strangely enough The Git think's its a treat for them going alone, when really the four get on so well, they actually enjoy being together, more so for celebrations.  The four are in the living room now playing on the Wii (I'm in the kitchen).

I'm guessing that saying something like that would upset your daughter though, if she wasn't to go without her brother?

I say it so often, yet I don't see how both parents just can't put their children's needs ahead of anything else.

I have to say after what went on with The Git's birthday, it has made me realise that The Gittess is equally responsible in not making The Git see his children.

I don't know what the answers are.

 

I told my ex-step-mother-in-law what had happened with The Git's birthday when we went for tea this week (I take the children there most weeks, and get on famously with my in-laws as I still call them - and they still call me their daughter-in-law!!!  Which is wrong really...).  She is so shocked.

I told her I had a job getting the children to want to get anything for their Dad as, in their words, he had made no effort with their birthdays.  She was disgusted at what happened with my daughter on her birthday (her birthday allowance paid for The Git, The Gittess, The Gittess's daughter and a McD meal and entrance to the cinema - she got a £1 foil scrape picture thing.  She was 16), and is surprised the children want anything to do with The Git at all.

I have never run him down with them.  I could have, but that's just not me.  But then, such a big part of me wants to :-D 

Loads of hugs to you.

The main thing is that the children have a rock, whether it be in one or both their parents.

As my oldest said to me, I have never let them down.  Unless I've been ill! lol

His words have meant a lot to me.  They were wonderful to hear.

 

Posted on: April 2, 2010 - 2:00pm