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ex has been arrested!

Pansy

what was I thinking! why did I ever consider daughter going to live there? thank god she or the dog were not there!

 

Got call on son's phone last night from his GF's sister to say that she thought she had better let me know that ex has been arrested, he was drunk & apparently attacked his GF & smashed up flat. GF called police & ex was arrested, they later came back for her. They are both still being held & are up in court tommorow from what I can gather. I don't know why she is also being held, no one really knows what happened at the moment. GF's sister said he has been drinking alot & she has been concerned for her sister. Obviously I gave her the rundown on his deppression & drink problem. So the truth is out & he has shown his true coulours.

 

I feel very stupid & quite sick that I had actually considered he may have changed & perhaps is ok now. I was willing to let daughter live there (although in desperation) & let dog go up to him.

 

He never hit me in all our years together, although if I'm honest there were a couple of times I thought he may & he did frighten me a bit. His GF has a very firery temprement, so i guess he was pushed more than he would have been with me. Also she did not believe he had drink problem, so he would have been able to drink what he wanted until out of control.  

 

My children are very upset, I could not hide it as as soon as they realised she was on the phone they knew from experience that something had happened & were listening in on call & heard bits. There is no use hiding it from them. My middle daughter, the ODD one says she will back her Dad all the way. The other two say if he did attack GF they don't want to ever see him again. so that is their first reaction, I'm sure they will go through all sorts of emotions. He could end up in prison. My son is pinning for BF, he keeps asking to talk to him, I said he can speak to him tonight when children have gone back home. 

 

I won't be allowing them to see him now of course, unless supervised.

 

will keep you updated when I find out what's happened. we are going to cinema this afternoon, so at least i can take their minds off it for a bit. It was daughters birthday slleepover when we had the news!

 

Pansy

Posted on: February 14, 2010 - 3:00pm
hazeleyes
DoppleMe

Hi Pansy

What a nightmare, and how extremely lucky that your daughter wasn't still there. You can't beat yourself up though at the fact that she did spend time there, you needed a break for god's sake, and you truely believed that he had changed. The kids are obviously going to go through different emotions, and the first is that they don't want to see him, (perfectly understandable) Your middle daughter is protecting her dad, (also understandable).

Perhaps the GF is just as bad as your ex, temper and drink wise, and the two together finally exploded!

Has your ex got a record? If this is his first offence, then he'll probably get off with a warning wouldn't he? (don't know much about the law)!!

It's such a shame that it all had to happen on your daughter's birthday sleep over. A trip to the cinema is a good idea, and hopefully take their minds off it for a few hours.

I hope you are all ok, and enjoy the film. What did you see?

Take care

Alison

x

Posted on: February 14, 2010 - 4:16pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Pansy

What a horrible shock for you all and it's great that you have your daughter back with you now and she did not have to witness it. You're right: the kids will go through all sorts of emotions so just let them express their feelings. You also say that you will have to think carefully about him seeing the kids.

It is unlikely he will go to prison but he will now have a criminal record. You will have to see what happens with the GF. You only know one side of the story.

Just stay as calm as you can and defuse any high emotions from the kids. They need you to reinforce the idea that they have one parent who is still their rock. But feel free to come on here and let it all out!

Posted on: February 14, 2010 - 6:26pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

How upsetting for you and the children.

I hope the cinema helped to calm things down and that things are more settled today.

So glad your children are with you, and somehow not surprised that one of your daughter's is supporting her father...

 

Posted on: February 15, 2010 - 5:46pm
Pansy

He's out & heading this way!

up there if you are arrested from friday night on, you are kept until the sherrif looks at the case on Monday, then either let go at 2pm or up in court. GF's sister said charges dropped & both let out. He is going to his Mum's which is about 20 miles away, he does not have a car or drive & will likely have no money left by the time he gets here, so I am not to panicky,but enough to maybe get locks changed now.

He recently, finally signed the form I needed to take his name off the tenancy, thank goodness for that! 

 he is apparently only going to his Mum's for a break of a few weeks, then going back up.

At some point I will be telling him he is not seeing the children because of his drinking again, he will not be pleased so I am expecting trouble of some kind, especially as I will be getting it from younger daughter too!  

I am thinking I may take the oppotunity to suggest mediation of some kind regarding him seeing children & getting himself help.

While he is on journey south I will call GF & find out as much as I can.

I feel so low, like whole life is falling apart today!  Did not have a good day with younger daughter today either, she had her CAMHS assesment appointment today & it was hard going talking about what she is like infront of her, she done her usual trick & tried to put me in a bad light. They are going to refer her for anger theraphy. I did explain that none of us want to live with her anymore because that is how bad it is.

When we got home she was extra bad! she went out of her way to upset us all & be as nasty as she could, it is like having an adult that is emotionally abusive to you, who plays mind games all the time. I can't continue. I told her that as she can't go with Dad & is driving us all to break down point that I will have to phone social services & ask about a foster home for her, I don't think she believes me, but it has come to this, I really can't go on, all I want is a peacful life, I am desperate for it!

sorry to whinge on & on!  am feeling very numb, can't even cry. Cant lean on BF to much, this coming week a bad one for him & he in a bad way too.

I need to kick up a fuss for help from wherever I can get it I think. I just need to find the energy to do it.

Pansy 

Posted on: February 15, 2010 - 11:46pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

I don't know what to suggest pansy, but I'm sure there will be some brill ideas put forward.

From my view point...

Don't bother with mediation.  I can't see what there is to gain when he's drinking.  I think the point has come to stop contact and let him take the matter to Court.  You can then give your reasons for not letting the children see him ie, they'll be in danger in his care.

Your youngest daughter.  Now that she has a diagnosis surely to goodness you should have access to children specialist services?  Here they're linked to social services.  You should be able to phone the social services and demand some respite care for your sake and the sake of her siblings.  I know how hard things can be with my son - had his review last week and talking in front of him too - so hard.

I have no idea if you can demand an emergency visit from the social services.  I'm sure your GP would give support to an application for respite and help?

Change the locks.  I changed mine because the keys wouldn't fit and got a new barrell from the local key cutting place.  Even I managed to change it.  You'll have more peace of mind too.  If he calls, any hassle dial 999.  Don't hesitate.

My brother told me to think of The Incredibles (sorry, but I'm sure I'm repeating myself here) where my home is my protection bubble.  The Git is not welcome and knows it.  As hard as it was for the children to deal with this, they had to learn to stop inviting him in too.

I honestly know what it's like not having the energy to know where to start.  My heart goes out to you.

As for a peaceful life.  I'm still waiting.  I still have fear each time I feel I'm being assertive with him.  Classic going on again this week.  So, in my view point a peaceful life is possible not available for a while yet.

 

Posted on: February 15, 2010 - 11:55pm
hazeleyes
DoppleMe

Hi Pansy

I hope you've had peaceful night. Firstly I would get the locks changed. To avoid trouble,, if your ex doesn't contact you, I wouldn't even bother getting in touch with him about not being able to see kids. If however he does make contact, then I guess you are going to have to tell him, but please make sure you are safe when doing so. God, he sounds like a nasty character and I know he wasn't violent or anything toward you in the past, he could well be now. You never know Pansy, so keep yourself safe, and the kids of course.

Don't feel bad about telling your daughter she'll have to go into foster care. Social services are put in place to help, and like Sparkling says, they should be able to offer respite care. I don't know how it works, but if she could go away every once in a while for a week or two, then you'd know at least you'd get respite too, along with the other children. Its extremely hard on you right now, but you're a strong woman, and you'll get through this s...

As for the BF, like you say, he has a bad week coming up and perhaps a lot more issues to deal with. Its great that you have someone, but if you're both dealing with stuff, then it might also make your 'newish' relationship a bit fraught. I hope that makes sense, and I'm not interfering honestly.

I'm sure you're going to be on tenderhooks, but try not to worry about BF. Take care, and hugs coming your way

Alison

x

Posted on: February 16, 2010 - 8:41am
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hello Pansy

Some great comments there from sparkling lime and alisoncam.

I agree change the locks, as soon as possible. You can call the police if he makes trouble. Wait till he approaches you re the children. No point in stirring up a hornet's nest by making a big declaration that he can't see them, until you have to.

As for your daughter, I understand your desperation. It is affecting all the family. I do not think you can demand an emergency visit by Social Services but I do think that respite care is a distinct possibility. She would probably go to a foster family rather than a children's home and they might offer you alternate weekends for example (that's a pattern I have seen a few times). Sparkling suggests going to your GP and this is a good idea. Also, you can ask Social Services what provision there is for "children in need". By that phrase, I mean families where the child or parents have additional support needs, but it is called child in need. If accepted onto this scheme, funding is provided for school holiday activities and to give you a break.

Finally. get in touch with your local Connexions service.(See http://www.connexions-direct.com/index.cfm?go=localServices) and find out whether there are any local mentoring schemes in your area. This would match your daughter with an adult supporter. I have seen brilliant results with such schemes.

Keep posting so we can keep supporting you

Posted on: February 16, 2010 - 12:56pm
Claire-Louise

Hi Pansy

Still catching up and left a post for you on anopther thread.  Just wanted to let you know here that I am thinking of you and I am sure others from this site are too.

It sounds like a horrible situation but I am sure you can keep strong and get through this.

The others have given some great advice and I agree with them.  Not sure I have much more to add really but wanted to let you know you do have support here.

Cheers C-L

Posted on: February 16, 2010 - 7:31pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Pansy

 

I have been off for a week and just come back on board and seen your post.  Poor you.

Please remind yourself not to blame yourself.  You do what you think is best and I know that you think everything through thoroughly.  Also remind yourself that you are in a better place than perhaps you were a couple of years ago.  You are the queen of your castle and you are much more in control of your life than before.

Is there any further news? Did you change the locks? Has he been round to bother you? How are you feeling?  How are the children?

Did you ever contact www.cafamily.org.uk? As I believe they offer some sort of respite?  How is your middle daughter coping at the moment?

 

Posted on: February 22, 2010 - 11:36am
Pansy

Hello everyone,

so sorry to take forever to reply. I thought I'd wait until I had more news & then it seemed I could either not get on the pc or had no time.

I have contacted the CAMHS team who are arranging my daughter anger managment anyway, they have told me to contact social services for  respite care for her. I have not done this yet or followed up your links, but I thank you all very much for your comments & links & I will follow them up this week.

It turned out that he was not charged with anything, they had both been taken in for the weekend, as up there anyone arrested fri onwards has to stay there until sherrif looks at it on monday, they are either released or charged. It also turns out that her sister was only telling me what she had heard from neighbours, all past down of course! her sister didn't actually know why they were there as ploice would not tell her anything when she phoned them to ask. I have to say I was shocked, he never laid a finger on me in all the years no matter how drunk or angry. However, I am not stupid enough to think that nothing went on. They clearly had a huge bust up with shouting that could be heard in the street & they were both drunk apparently, his GF admitted to me she was drunk too & it was all very stupid. They made the mistake of going outside to go to the shop across the road, where they where approached about the shouting by police who were attending a fight in the street. Ex called policeman something & was arrested, GF went mad about it & was also arrested.

Ex & GF decided on a break, as ex,s Mum is away from her house down here at the moment for another 3 wks & our son has a operation in march, ex wanted to be here for him, so he has come & is staying in her house. GF has stayed up there, Ex says he is getting his own flat when he goes back, it was all to much to soon but they are not splitting up.

For the first time since he went he seems ok, no evidence of drink round there & appers his normal self. this of course does not mean that he wont suddenly have another drinking binge, but he was never physically dependant like most, but just emotionally.

Given all this infomation & after checking him out & talking to him I have sent daughter there to stay with him whilst he is here & son is staying for a few days too. Eldest & I went round there for dinner made by daughter yesterday, as it was his 40th birthday. him & me both talked to her about her behaviour etc & it was the best thing that could have happened! she had us both in one room saying exactally the same things to her, backing each other up. I think she got quite a shock, she was hoping to be able to play us off against each other.

I will follow up your links & phone social services about respite because when he goes back I am going to need it still. But at least I now have all the balls rolling with the CAMHS help & getting her back to school.

thank you all so much, your support is wonderful. I feel very guilty as I have not been on much & should make an effort to give help to someone else & I havn't done for a while now.

will keep you updated.

Pansy x

 

 

Posted on: February 24, 2010 - 3:15pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

The 40th dinner seems to have been very positive with moving things forward with your daughter.

I hope your son's op will go well.  It's good really that ex will be close by to offer him some support too.

Loads of hugs Pansy.

Posted on: February 24, 2010 - 4:20pm
hazeleyes
DoppleMe

Hi Pansy

Glad to hear things have calmed down, and although it was bad, in the fact that your ex had been arrested, it wasn't as bad as what you thought, is what I'm getting at here, (in a roundabout way). Really pleased that your ex also sided with you regarding your daughter's behaviour. Its good that you had his support, and I think it's really nice that you and daughter went and celebrated his birthday together. You are very good for doing that.

There aren't many people on board at the moment, and the only crisis I'm having right now is to do with a laptop, but Bubblegum is on the ball. :)

Take care of yourself.

Alison

x

Posted on: February 24, 2010 - 5:18pm
Pansy

oh no! don't talk to me about laptops!  computers & cars, are the most irritating of things made by man, but also the most useful, lol :)

 

Pansy x 

Posted on: February 24, 2010 - 11:48pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Pansy

Well done for all the progress you have made and I am very glad that things have calmed down. You have got a lot on your plate at the moment and it's important to look after yourself in the middle of it all.

Keep us updated and we can keep supporting you

Posted on: February 25, 2010 - 9:48am
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi pansy, what a turnaround from your last post!  It sounds as if it might do your future relationship some good, him just being around and showing the children that he cares etc.

Echoing Louise here, but remember to take care of you and try not to become reliant on his support just yet.

How is your daughter enjoying living with him close to you?

Posted on: February 25, 2010 - 3:18pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Hope things are going ok pansy.

Is ex still with his mum?

Posted on: March 10, 2010 - 5:38pm
Pansy

hello Sparkling :)

yes he is still there & has had the children quite a bit, which has been lovely for me. There has been no drinking or trouble at all  & I managed to get away for a long weekend last weekend :)

His mum is back Monday morning & our son  has a operation, only day surgery to release a testicle, poor thing!, that is on Tuesday, so he is staying for that & then going back Wed. 

We all managed a meal together on his birthday, which the children were pleased about & I have had his support with daughters problems, so things have been ok thankfully.

I read your post sparkling about text message you got from gitess!

as you may remember I had a few of those from Ex's GF too, know how you feel. your ex is lucky you bother to remind the children, maybe you shouldn't bother in future. Hope your feeling better about things now.

Pansy x

 

Posted on: March 11, 2010 - 10:10pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

I'm so very pleased that things have worked out - even if it turns out to be for a short while.  Nice sometimes to have the space to breathe...

Your poor son - loads of hugs there.

The Gits present and cards are still here.  Children haven't asked to go up, and I've not offered.  I've spoken to ex-step-mother-in-law this morning and she was very jolly, so I figure things haven't got back to them - that was making me feel sick too, as we're off there this evening for tea.

I won't be reminding the children again.  After all, no one reminds them with me!  The text should have been about having the children over for birthday cake.  Perhaps I've been rather harsh on The Git.  I somehow think The Gittess could have been the one blocking the contact - not that it matters now.  Youngest is 11 anyway, it mattered more when he was 8.

Hope the sun is shining down on you, and things remain at least ok!

xx

Posted on: March 12, 2010 - 3:36pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi sparklinglime

Please do not question yourself. In your last message you said..."Perhaps I have been too harsh on the git".  Um, from all that you have said, I don't think so at all, so take it back!!!

Hi pansy, sounds like you have had a bit of a break, phew!  It must be such a relief your ex not drinking and behaving normally.  It sounds like you are keeping strong.

Good luck with your boy at the hospital, I bet he will need lots of TLC when he comes home.

Look after yourself :)

Posted on: March 12, 2010 - 5:44pm