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how to sort out contact (help appreciated)

leefern

hi am new to this and wondering if anyone can offer me any advice. 9 months ago me and ex split up as we weren't getting on and he met someone else, at the time i was heart broken but thought it very important that our 5 year old daughter still maintains a good level of contact with her dad. im not going to say im a saint and didnt sometimes cause any problems , i was hurting and logically in my head i thought by doing everything he wanted he would come back. 9 months down the line am in a much better place and realise although the way it happened wasnt the best we weren't good together and splitting up is the best thing to have happened.

however his new partner did not want me or my daughter in his life at all, 2 the point were he was in a position were on visitation days he had to choose between her or our daughter and on more than a few occasions he choose her. due to this he stopped all contact with me and all the arrangments were made through his mum. our daughter wld go to his mums on a friday then his mum would drop her off with him on a saturday night and pick her up on a sunday morning. am not at all happy with this as i dont feel he is really takin any responsability for his daughter.

a few weeks ago i had a phone call from the police telling me that they were bringing my daughter home as she had been in the car with her gran and she had been drinking and had an accident, it wasnt serious but i realise how serious it could have been. i feel his mum doesnt pass anyway messages i have given her abt our daughter to him or when he isnt making an effort to see her( he has missed abt 3 weekends in the last 7).

i have decided that i no longer wish to go through his mum as she isnt trust worthy and i dont knw when my daughter is away were she's going to be staying on which night, the only solution is by us coming to some kind of agreement together which wld be in our daughters best interest. i dont knw how to go abt this as i have no contact with him i at all, i dont knw were he lives and he changed his mobile number as his gf was unhappy that i had contact with him. his gf plays no part in my daughters life and has no wish to either her choice nothing to do with me.

does anyone have any ideas on how i can sort this out so were both happy and our daughter has a good relationship with her dad as i believe this is the most important thing out of it all, although i will not accepted him playing a half hearted role as her dad when he can be bothered to.

thanks

Posted on: September 20, 2009 - 6:46pm
hazeleyes
DoppleMe

Hi Leefern
Welcome to the group. Wow, how terribly irresponsible of your daughters grandmother. I certainly wouldn't let my child alone with her. You can still keep up contact between your daughter and her, but if you go along too, if that is possible. As for the father, can you arrange visits in a contact centre? It is so unfair that your ex's new partner has made him choose, but he is the father, and quite frankly should have told her where to go.
You obviously want whats best for your daughter, but as a lot of people have said on this group, you cant make the absent parent see the child. You can only be there for the child, so at least she knows you will always be there for her. It's heartbreaking to hear so many similar stories.
I think I'm a lot more fortunate. My son's father has never given a monkeys, so I dont have the hassle, though of course I still get questions from my son.
I wish you luck. Lots of people here will be able to offer you support and advice.
Take care
Alison
x :)

Posted on: September 20, 2009 - 7:18pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Hi

That must have been quite a shock for you! Has her Gran said anything to you about this? Has she offered an apology?

Personally, I feel that if you're not satisfied that your daughter is going to be safe then you have no choice really but to stop contact. I'm assuming that there's no Court order in place? If there is a Court Order for contact to be through the Grandmother, you can go back to Court with your reasons to stop it.

It seems to me, one way you can do this is to send a letter addressed to him and marked 'private' to his mother's address, asking him to contact you to agree contact with your daughter. It then puts the ball in his court, so to speak.

You can't do anything to make him see her, so it might be a case of being prepared to deal with that. If you daughter misses her Gran, perhaps contact for a couple of hours every now and then might be an idea, making sure that her Gran only sees her in the house.

Just my thoughts. I do know how hard it can be sorting contact out.

Best wishes.

Posted on: September 20, 2009 - 11:48pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hello leefern

Firstly, welcome!

With regard to your daughter I agree with the others that there is no way you can now trust her grandmother with her, your daughter's safety is paramount. I guess she hasd only been involved because your daughter's father did not choose to be as involved once he started getting ultimatums from the new girlfriend.

That is not to say that he has to see her in the Contact Centre. Sparkling Lime's idea of a letter is a good one, perhaps inviting him to mediation where you can talk about parenting time together in a neutral atmosphere, whilst feeling safe enough to express your feelings about his Mum. Find your local mediator here: http://www.nfm.org.uk/index.php?page=Local Offices

if you do not know where he is, is he paying any child support? Do you know where he works, for the letter? It is important you know the address if he is having your daughter to stay in the future!

best wishes :)

Posted on: September 21, 2009 - 10:49am
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi leefern

I completely agree with what the others have said, you could write a letter to him and you could copy his mum in, stating that you would like to change contact arrangements and will stop all contact until you have heard from him, then as people have said ....the ball is in his court.

It is always good for a child to have contact with their grandparents, if possible, but it sounds like you would like to reconsider the arrangements.

I think your first step is to contact a family solicitor and discuss what they can do for you.

Please note that to have the other parent seeing their child in the Contact Centre, it has to go through Court and for the Court to deem it unsafe for the child otherwise or the only option for access.

Please keep in touch as this is such a stressful time sorting out contact. Do you have your family's support?

Posted on: September 21, 2009 - 2:38pm
leefern

hey everyone thanks for your replys i think the idea of a letter is my best bet i knw the area he stays which isnt far from me but not the exact were abts i was gonny get my daughter to show me then jst turn up but i think that would cause more problems than it would solve lol.

i dont want to stop contact with her gran as she loves her gran to bits and i knw it wld upset her doing that, her gran lost her son in a accident a few years back which is why she turned to drink so i kinda feel sorry for her but my daughters safety must come first. she apologised n was crying n said it wldnt happen again cause i said she put her own grand daughters life in danger could she live with herself if anythin had happened? av decided she can see her for a few hours after school each week that way am not stopping contact and i get to keep an eye on her when she drops her off so i knw she aint been drinking. she is good to her and i knw she wld do anything for her.

her dad confuses me cause sometimes its like he would do anything to see her and the next time he cant b bothered with it, i dont knw if his gf is still making things difficult for him but he should tell her were to go as far as his daughter is concerned. she should come first i had countless arguments abt it with him when we first split up abt it. i didnt knw u can do mediation but its sounds like a really good idea cause we always end up in a fight everytime we tried to discuss it, he's quite immature in that way.

i have a great family anna who are always there to support me but both my mum and dad still have young familys so they cant really offer anythin with giving me a break, the only break i get is when im at work :lol: which is stressful in its self.

he doesnt work so he lives in a private house which is paid for by the government and i get £5 per week from the csa which i think jst abt sums up his contribution, while i work part time while my daughters at work to pay the bills and keep a roof over her heads. i knw i sound bitter abt this and i prob am a little bit but i dont want her to grow up n think its ok to sit back and do nothing with ur life i understand there is lots of ppl out there who need this help and dont have any other option but 2 me it shows jst how little his commitment is to her when he doesnt make an effort to be able to afford to give her the things in life he never had growing up without his dad.

anyway i hope i answered all ur questions am going on a bit now cause im starting to get angry thinking abt it, if u want to ask anythin else jst let me know

Posted on: September 21, 2009 - 4:16pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi leefern

It sounds as though you have come to a decision, that you are happy with, regarding your daughters gran. Thats good news.

Glad to hear that you are not planning to get your daughter to show you where your ex lives, as I think you are right, it could well cause more problems than it would solve!

We can't control what kind of father they are going to be for our children, how much responsibility they will take or how much they will support us, so it is completely understandable that his actions are frustrating you.

It sounds as though you are just wanting him to be more consistent, you mention that your daughter has a good relationship with him and presumably you wish for that to continue, but as a parent you know that regular contact is really important. Obviously you want him to do more, but try not to confuse your frustration with him and his lack of involvement, with how much he is allowed to see her.

I am glad that you have a good relationship with your parents and feel their support. I really understand about the feeling of getting to work, just to have a bit of normality and stress free time! What work do you do??

Posted on: September 22, 2009 - 11:11am
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Personally, I think you're doing a brilliant job.

It's so good having family support.

Posted on: September 22, 2009 - 12:06pm