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Martin

How do you get the balance right between keeping your ex happy enough to let you see the children and at the same time let your new partner know it is all about the children and stop her feeling insecure about the fact that i visit my ex for the children and only the children?

Posted on: November 26, 2009 - 6:18pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

HI Martin

Do you go to the house when you see your kids? It will be better when she can come with you for the pick-ups as you have said before.

It's a really knotty problem. Your new partner may have had a past experience of someone who had kids and in fact was visitng the ex/ still had feelings and she needs to know that she is the only lady for you, you can only do this by showering her with love and compliments and special time all the time you don't have the boys. Exhausting for you keeping everyone happy!

Could you talk to your partner and say "I realise that it is difficult for you when I see the boys as it means some contact with their Mum, it is all over between her and me, but I understand that it doesn't feel comfortable for you. Is there anything I can do to make you feel better about it all?"! and put the ball in her court. I understand how you just want everyone to be happy but she in turn wants to feel secure. it sounds as if she is really good with your boys, which is great, and maybe in return she expects an outward demonstration of your loyalty....but ask her what she needs and this will make her feel you are considering her in the picture too :)

Posted on: November 26, 2009 - 6:49pm
Martin

Hi Louise,

I go to the house to pick them up and drop them off then they come back to where i live now with my new partner.

I know i need to make sure she feels secure and i am working on that, just the way i withdrawn when i am on a low i suppose has an affect on our relationship.

We talk about these things, but i tend to block them out and not bring everything up and out in the open to talk about, so it builds up inside me.

MArtin.

Posted on: November 26, 2009 - 10:01pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Martin, in the past I have found that when things are getting too much, I write it down. I have a sort of diary that over the years has become quite full. I still use it now, when frustrations are high and I have no way of venting them.

It is hard for a new partner to feel secure, especailly as you sound really understanding, when it comes to your ex. I think it is a very positive trait in a man, that he makes the effort and that should show her that she has a goodun' in you!

Louise's suggestion of asking her what would help is a good one. I wonder if you have told her how hard you find it?

Posted on: November 27, 2009 - 11:09am
Martin

Hi Anna,

Yes i have told her how hard i find it and she understands that i think, i know the guilt will come and go and i have to learn to deal with it in a better way, i need to look to my boys and make sure they are happy and full of life and that will inturn have a good affect on me.

I am working on being more open with my new partner and making sure she feels secure and loved.

Again back to finding the balance and making sure the balance is right.

MArtin.

Posted on: November 27, 2009 - 11:20am
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Martin, finding the balance can be exhausting, I hope that you are being looked after in all of this too, either by you r new partner, but most importantly yourself.

Do you know when the counselling will start?

Posted on: November 27, 2009 - 11:29am
Martin

Hi Anna,

Yes rang a help line a few times now, mainly just to talk and open up, got my appointment booked for monday on the counselling side which again is hopefully a step in the right direction.

I have my boys staying over this weekend so i am looking forward to that and of course that will keep me nice and busy :D

Martin.

Posted on: November 27, 2009 - 11:40am
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

I'm sure you'll have a brilliant time with your sons.

Posted on: November 27, 2009 - 3:16pm
Martin

Hi Sparklinglime,

Yes got the boys with me now just getting everyone ready for bed!

Its about enjoying the time you have them and i am learning as i go i suppose, didn't think it would be this hard.

Martin.

Posted on: November 27, 2009 - 8:30pm
Claire-Louise

Hi Martin
Hope you have a fantastic weekend with your boys and enjoy every minute you have with them. How do they get on with your new partner?
I think this thing of finding a balance can be really hard as it is very difficult to please all the people all the time but is sounds like you are really trying hard. It might be worth looking at the time you spend with your boys in comparison to the quality time you and your new partner have together and maybe book in something special to do together especailly after you have spent time with the boys.
I agree that Louise's suggestion of asking her for ways to help the situation would be useful and the counselling should help too in assisting you to sort out your feelings of guilt. Once that emotion lessens (which will take time I am sure), then you may start to feel like you can get on with your life with your new partner and enjoy your time together without feeling guilty. After all it is not as if you planned for your life to go like this. These things happen and they are slightly out of our control. It sounds like you have managed to adapt and make the best that you can of the situation but your emotions are taking a bit longer to sort.
Enjoy the weekend, enjoy your boys and enjoy your new partner.
Cheers C-L

Posted on: November 27, 2009 - 8:39pm
Martin

Hi Claire,

Thanks for your reply, yes i know what you mean we don't plan these things it is just the way life takes us!
2009 has been a hell of a year for me!

I am trying to look forward and hopefully get straight for the new year, i am working things through with my partner, we have taken some time apart at the moment and so i am having a weekend with just my boys. That is hard as well as it can get lonely when you are aound on your own. I know we needed to have some time apart so i can deal with the guilt and build or relationship back up.

I am looking forward to the weekend with my boys for sure!

Martin.

Posted on: November 27, 2009 - 8:45pm
Claire-Louise

Hi Martin
It does sound like it has been a difficult time for you with so many factors to try to sort out. But you sound very lever headed about it all (even if it doesn't always feel like that from your point of view). You seem to be considering all side of the issue and trying to resolve it so that you can all be happy and content with the situation you have found yourselves faced with. I admire you for that as it can all get very heated and slightly self centred but that does not seem to be what is going on here. It is good that you have sorted out some counselling for you, some time for you and the boys and some time apart for you and your partner. They say 'time is as good as a rest' and perhaps that is what you two need, some space to get things into perspective and consider how you both feel about each other and about the situation and how the best way to resolve it is going to be. Life is always so hectic that we don't get time in our everyday lifes to sit back and consider things so it is great that you have created that space.
Come back here as often as you want to and get the support and friendship you need from the group here. They are a great bunch and are very supportive and have some real good experiences to share and learn from.
Cheers C-L

Posted on: November 27, 2009 - 9:09pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

hello again Martin

Claire Louise made a really good point about putting the practical strategies in place but it takes a while for the emotional side to "catch up". It WILL happen. I know it feels like you are a juggler trying keep everything in the air at the moment but it will get easier, the counselling will help a lot.

Have a brilliant time with your sons and concentrate on the positives of being together= I know you feel sad when they have gone but you are building happy memories together all the time :D

Posted on: November 28, 2009 - 9:05am
Martin

Hi Louise,

Yes thanks for your reply, i am trying to build and move on with my new life now, the guilt is still an uphill battle and the time i have with my boys is always great!

My new partner is currently spending some time with her parents to give us some space and time for me to get myself back on track so to speak, we have a battle with that as well as her dad is not happy with our relationship. Mainly due to my depression and guilt i have. He is a parent and i thought he may understand a little better but i suppose you have to go through this yourself to fully understand how it feels and the ups and downs that come with it.

I am working on talking and opening up to discuss my feeleing something i never been that good at to be honest.

Taking each day as it comes and moving on where i can.

Martin.

Posted on: November 28, 2009 - 5:32pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Be kind to you too...

You matter so much.

Posted on: November 28, 2009 - 6:51pm
Claire-Louise

Hi there Matin
How are things today? Have you had a lovely day or so with your boys? It was actually sunny here in bristol which was just great as it has been so wet recently. great to be able to get out with the kids and potter in the garden as well - a real spirit lifter I find as I hate being cooped up indoors for too long.
Cheers C-L

Posted on: November 28, 2009 - 7:47pm
Martin

Hi CL,

Yeah had a good weekend with the boys, no look with the weather it hasn't stopped raining here in Leeds!

It has been good to spoend some time with the boys, and so far had a good day after dropping them off, i have my first one to one counselling session tomorrow, not sure how i will feel after that but i am looking forward and being positive.

Glad you had a good weekend and you did well if you stayed dry!

Martin.

Posted on: November 29, 2009 - 10:12pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi Martin

A weekend with just you and the boys, I bet they had great fun!

Quote:
That is hard as well as it can get lonely when you are aound on your own

Absolutely Martin! This is what your ex is living with and most single parents! But this is not reason enough to have a partner.

It sounds good that you are having some time apart from your partner, it will do her some good and hopefully make things clearer for her. I understand where her dad is coming from, he would like to see his daughter meet someone who doesn't have children, so she will be the centre of his world, not the children. this is not your fault, it is just the way it is, your children will always be first and foremost for you and anyone else who comes into your life, HAS to accept taking 2nd place.

Good Luck with the counselling, please let us know how it goes, often the first session seems to be setting the scene, but don't be surprised if you come out and feel cold and little disorientated, I know I did. They say that this is normal as you are expressing thoughts and feelings and being open, so take a warm jumper with you and give yourself a relaxing afternoon if possible. :?:

Posted on: November 30, 2009 - 10:52am