Please complete: Why are you a single parent?
I thought it would be interesting to see why we have separated from our partners and are now single parents?
We would then be able to see what the most common reason for parenting alone is and if it truly is (as the media often leads us to believe) because we are all young and promiscuous had children to get a council flat!!
Unfortunately when we moved sites, we lost this visual poll, thought I would leave the topic in though!
We will produce a similar poll shortly for the homepage, as the results are very interesting!
We would then be able to see what the most common reason for parenting alone is and if it truly is (as the media often leads us to believe) because we are all young and promiscuous had children to get a council flat!!
I wish I was still young and promiscuous : )
what do you mean "still"????? :lol:
I've put grown apart. Probably the most relevant, as I think other issues followed from that. I wanted to be married - he wanted to be able to tell people he was married (and later married with children) without actually "playing" the part, if that makes sense.
I still say he was "the" one when we did get together though. Such a Git now though... :D
Now I'm a single parent because I want to be.
I never give simple replies, do I? 8-)
Hi guys
Sorry bubblegum, when I set this up I had the choice whether to let people give more than one option, but felt that we wouldn't get a realistic figure. So I am controlling the situation!
Sparklinglime, you don't give simple replies because you are not simple!!
If you have any other ideas that we could poll our users on then let me know! :)
Hi,
I also wanted to choose more than one!!
My ex partner was abusive, drank alcohol and... happened to be married (which is not as he lead me to believe) I hope this doesn't make me disliked in the forum as I've no doubt there are people who have been left by husbands - or have left...
One thing I'd like to say is that noone ever hears my story, my side - I feel for the wife, truly I do, but I'm the one left without my glamorous PA job, back in Leicester with no family as they're all ashamed of me, on benefits, scared in my own home of being attacked, dreading phone calls and feeling alone - that feeling of the walls closing in on me!
I'm sorry, I'm having a bad day, my baby boy refuses to sleep, I feel as though I'm being left on my own with noone!
I do hope someone will just talk to me and tell me it's going to be ok, because I don't have anyone like that anymore!
JennaCharlie
Hi Jenna Charlie
The other post you wrote, I have put it in the Parenting Support section and sent you a long reply, hopefully others will chip in as well.
I know, there are always many sides to the same story, aren't there, and people can be too quick to judge, Your life has taken a huge upheaval and it is important to try and see the positives of that, which I hope we can help you with.
Take care
Hi JennaCharlie, I have yet to see your other post, but I am pleased to meet you and don't worry, we are not judgemental here and we ALL understand what you are feeling at the moment, lonely, betrayed and hurt.
We are here for you, so look forward to talking to you some more. :)
To all our users,
Due to public demand, I have changed the poll to allow everyone to pick more than one option for the above poll!
You can also add your second choice now bubblegum!
I've added abusive - even though I couldn't see ti at the time, so you can knock that off if that doesn't count!
I've added unfaithful, even though he claimed never to have slept with these "friends" he was far too emotionally involved to bother with the children and me...
Nothing compared with what so many of you have experienced, I know.
JennaCharlie,
sorry you are feeling down at the moment.
Please keep posting so we know you are OK.
Hug for you.
sy
scared in my own home of being attacked
Jenna charlie, that is such a horrible feeling, I too went through a couple of years, feeling very afraid at night time. I used to barricade the door with a bookcase and a chair wedged against the stairs, it was impenetrable, but the feeling still took a while to go away.
Are there any ways that you can feel safer? Ie window locks, chubb lock on front door?
I am a single parent, but do not live with my 2 teenage children. I did not love my husband but kept up the 'perfect family' image for 3 years. I met someone else who was in a similar situation. We realised we had a lot in common and grew closer until we fell in love. My ex found out and immediately became physically, mentally, verbally and emotionally violent towards me. The police are involved because of the constant abuse I recievefrom him and his friends. The police told me it was not safe to live in the marital home so I had to leave with nothing. He soon found someone else and has created a new life for himself. However he still sends bullying text messages to me and on occasions is verbally abuse bacause of the financial disputes that we have. What distresses me more than anything is the he convinces my eldest son (18) that his behaviour is justified because he has been wronged. After seeking professional advice I now realise what a bully and control freak he was during our 20 years of marriage. I described to a police woman details of his sexual demands that he always made and she described this in no uncertain terms as rape. I have so much to come to terms with.
You do indeed, skippy, not least always being made out to be in the wrong, I guess it was the only way he felt he could justify his abusive behaviour to you.
Have you had any specialised support from anyone such as Women's Aid? I know they are particulaerly supportive of rape victims within a relationship. http://www.womensaid.org.uk/ Also I wonder if you feel some counselling would help you? Your GP may be able to help there.
How dreadful that he has tried to tell your son that it is all your fault. Do you have contact with your son? If not, or if it is sproadic then there is another organsation that can help you. Go to http://www.matchmothers.org/
Please do keep posting on these boards as there is lots of friendly aupport here
best wishes
thank you so much for that. I am recieving counselling. I have real bad days. My boys come and see me for a meal 3 times a week but are often quite hostile towards me. how can that be fair and what message does that give my boys???
You do indeed, skippy, not least always being made out to be in the wrong, I guess it was the only way he felt he could justify his abusive behaviour to you.
Have you had any specialised support from anyone such as Women's Aid? I know they are particulaerly supportive of rape victims within a relationship. http://www.womensaid.org.uk/ Also I wonder if you feel some counselling would help you? Your GP may be able to help there.
How dreadful that he has tried to tell your son that it is all your fault. Do you have contact with your son? If not, or if it is sproadic then there is another organsation that can help you. Go to http://www.matchmothers.org/
Please do keep posting on these boards as there is lots of friendly aupport here
best wishes
Skippy have you actually talked to your boys about their hostility or have been trying to keep the peace? If the latter then it might be worth saying to them "I know your dad might have said some things about me and it is certainly true that he and I do not want to be together but I will always love you, no matter what anyone else tells you, you have to believe me" Then they might say something like "well, why did you leave then?" and it wil give you a chance to explain. Try not to criticise the other parent too much, however difficult that is and try not to get upset in front of them. Teen boys don't deal with tears well! In between visits, keep the contact going, whether through text or MSN or Facebook (whatever they like) and say how much you are looking forward to seeing them. It might be a case of waiting for things to settle down (very upsetting) but do get support from that MATCH website I gave you the link for earlier.
Hi Skippy
Sending hugs and strength. I hope that your sons can get over their anger.
thank you that means a lot
Hi Skippy
Sending hugs and strength. I hope that your sons can get over their anger.
I try whenever I can to be positive in front of the boys. I have told them that I am pleased that their dad is happy. I have tried to tactfully explain that things were not right. All they can see is that there is someone elso involved and that he is to blame. They have accepted their dads new girlfriend quite happily and are all moving in together. But up until very recently have flatly refused to have anything to do with my partner and can only see him as the cause of all of this. I tell them constantly that I love them and send them texts to which they often don't reply. All they can see is that me and my partner broke up their happy home.
Skippy have you actually talked to your boys about their hostility or have been trying to keep the peace? If the latter then it might be worth saying to them "I know your dad might have said some things about me and it is certainly true that he and I do not want to be together but I will always love you, no matter what anyone else tells you, you have to believe me" Then they might say something like "well, why did you leave then?" and it wil give you a chance to explain. Try not to criticise the other parent too much, however difficult that is and try not to get upset in front of them. Teen boys don't deal with tears well! In between visits, keep the contact going, whether through text or MSN or Facebook (whatever they like) and say how much you are looking forward to seeing them. It might be a case of waiting for things to settle down (very upsetting) but do get support from that MATCH website I gave you the link for earlier.
Skippy,
I am so sorry you find yourself in this situation. What a whirlwind of different emotions.
I wonder if giving each son in turn an opportunity to talk with you without hostility (some ground rules) might promote better understanding? Two angry sons at once might be a bit much for you at the moment? Maybe on neutral ground somewhere, quiet park?
Your messages to them of love and support will outlast their anger. You are very wise in this I feel.
The bad days for you will get less and less. I know it is hard to see it at the moment.
sy
Hi skippy and welcome from me!
I can't begin to imagine having two older sons who blame me for the break up of the relationship, when their father is being abusive. It must be so painful for you, thank you for sharing. Have you heard of the Freedom Programme? It is an excellent programme that can really sort through some of the difficult emotions that you are probably feeling at the moment. Visit http://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk/freedomprogramme/venues.cfm to find a course near you, you will find expert advice and support from other survivors.
Have you contacted Womens Aid as Louise suggested? Here is their website http://www.womensaid.org.uk/
I think Louise made a great suggestion of trying to have one2one contact with each of your sons, it gives them a chance to be honest with you and breaks down their defences. If they can see that their dad is now happy, try let them know that your partner makes you happy and why, however I would suggest that actually what they really want at this age is to talk about themselves, so try and keep it brief!
Thank you anna and sadsy
It is so good to hear your advice and I will certainly try with your suggestions.
I'm a single parent because my husband decided that after 6 years of marriage (and 4 days before our anniversary) he didn't love me anymore. He tells people that we grew apart, but for me it came out of the blue and just about tore me apart. But now after a year I can honestly say that it was a good thing. I am happy on my own with our son, and am lucky enough that I now have a pretty good relationship with my ex. Its taken us a while to get to that stage but I'm happier now than I have been for a long time.
Hello vickstick
That's great that you are happy on your own and have made a good recovery from what must have been an awful shock. Thank you for posting about that as other people on the board (who have separated more recently) can be heartened by how you have moved your life forward. Do please keep posting and join in the threads :)
Hi vickstick34, it is so heartwarming to hear that you and your ex have learned to get along for the sake of your boy, I look forward to hearing how you managed it! I am presuming that he was a good chap to start with, but it is great that you are enjoying life and don't resent the break.
I think it is great that you and your ex now have a civil relationship, it must make things so much easier for your son
I'm a single parent because my husband decided that after 6 years of marriage (and 4 days before our anniversary) he didn't love me anymore. He tells people that we grew apart, but for me it came out of the blue and just about tore me apart. But now after a year I can honestly say that it was a good thing. I am happy on my own with our son, and am lucky enough that I now have a pretty good relationship with my ex. Its taken us a while to get to that stage but I'm happier now than I have been for a long time.
A difficult weekend, this is my sons 18th birthday weekend. I have been very much excluded from all of the celebrations, it is so hard.
Oh no Skippy. I'm so sorry. That is so sad.
Oh skippy,
that's really tough.
Big huug for you.
sy
Skippy I really feel for you, what a shame when the other parent's personal feelings cloud what should be a time of celebrations.....You are among friends here.
Hi Skippy, that must have been really difficult for you.
What about creating your own celebrations for him this coming weekend or one in the near future?
Whether it just be a meal out, or home cooked, or a day trip to a local tourist attraction, you need to celebrate it too, you did give birth to him after all! :)
This is always a hard one for separated parents, like Christmas time, but it doesn't mean that it has to pass un-noticed by you, it just means the celebration has to be on a different day and in a different way.
Good Luck, please do something special with him, for your sake.
:? It certainly wasn't my choice: I was apparently perfectly happy, though I did strangely enough have a premonition that I was losing my husband, without consciously knowing why.
It turned out that he was having a fling with our german au pair, and then decided he would like the three of us to live together... Sorry - despite my interest in cultures where polygamy is acceptable, I could not share my husband with someone I wasn't getting on with anyway!!
So now I work part-time so that I can be here for my children (we had three, the youngest only 2 and a half years old when he went). I unfortunately made another mistake and got into a peculiar relationship with a single man who wanted children - we have never married or even lived together, but have 2 boys. So I am still working part-time, will never pay off my mortgage, and rely on benefits to keep our heads above water... The children from my marriage hate the father of their little brothers - life never ceases to be a challenge!
Hi cupricorchid
Very nice to see you again! Its been a long time.
It sounds as though you are feeling a little under the pressure at the moment.
working part-time, will never pay off my mortgage, and rely on benefits to keep our heads above water... The children from my marriage hate the father of their little brothers
I think there are going to be very few parents on here who DON'T have money worries, so don't beat yourself up about it, accept it and move on! Until all your children have grown up and you win the lottery, life is unlikely to change. This is fine, as long as you keep your heads above the water! You are doing a grand job. I am sure raising 5 children has not been a breeze!
Your older children are still not happy with your current partner. Why do you think that is? Are they jealous of him? Is he indifferent to them? do they think he treats you unfairly?
Has he moved in? From you last post, a year ago, it sounded as if it might be imminent, although you did sound as if you were 100% sure it was what you wanted.
Keep in touch and let us know how you are....and thanks for completing the poll.
When I first looked at the list I wanted the option ' Partner left without warning/reason', but having had a couple of opportunities to see and talk to him, and to see how he has been with the kids since, I am starting to realise that he is no longer the person I thought he was.
So I have gone for 'grown apart' as although it was a shock, I think maybe I didn't want to see we had little in common. We always got on really well and had the same ideas about kid/house stuff, but no hobbies or interests together. We talked about doing more, but guess neither of us put in enough effort. I was happy being married and loved him, but that was not enough. I thought that we had a 'normal' marriage filled with busy kids, busy jobs and money issues, but maybe I was just 'settling' and maybe he was right. Ok I hate to admit it - he was right and I can see the kids and I will be happier, I am starting to see some of the effects already.
Am feeling down now thinking I am as much to blame in all this and what the kids have been put through - that one will rip me up for a while.
Is it wrong to want glass of something and a hug now.
peg
Hi purplepeg
I think it's understandable that you felt like a drink and a hug last night! How brave of you to stand back and look at your situation and see your own part in it. Not many people can do that, not many at all, believe me :roll: But don't feel down about it, you live and learn and future relationships will be all the better for your strength, and you say yourself that the kids are Ok!
Hi purplepeg, of course it is normal to want a glass and a hug, might disagree if it was a pint glass of spirits and a hug from a serial killer!!
I agree with Louise that it is great for you to be able to reflect on your relationship and see what you would have done differently, you never know, maybe this means your next relationship will be full of shared interests and you will be madly in love with him!!
The children would enjoy that too, don't you think!? :)
Anna - A next one :o Nice thought to be cherished, but think I might just become one of those whose people who doesn't want to share my space anymore :D
Never say "never", purplepeg ;)
:lol: :lol:
As I say and have learnt from experience.....You NEVER know what is around the corner. But as we have discussed before, it is always good to take time out from relationships once in a while, to get to know you again, find out what makes YOU happy as an individual. It can be fun and interesting and a new part of our life journey.
It must have been such a shock when he left as it sounds as if life was going along quite smoothly.
he was right and I can see the kids and I will be happier, I am starting to see some of the effects already.
Can you share some of the effects you have seen already?
Anna, it was a shock, but in some ways not a surprise. He has always had plans and tried new things and then got bored with them, or stopped when things got tough. Jobs, running a business, pets, hobbies – you name it we tried it. I always tried to make things work for him – he was the dreamer and I was the practical one. So when he said told me he was going it felt it was a new scheme/plan and we (me and the kids) were the latest thing to be bored off or too tough to handle. A week or so after he went we spoke I asked him if he was happy and he said he felt relieved – that the pressure was off! What pressure! Sorry – maybe I should save this for the rant room!
What was said about admitting my part in all of this made me feel terrible. I don’t want to be to blame as I feel I was a good wife. I tried to make everything he wanted work , but it wasn’t enough. Now I feel like I have sorted out of the practical stuff and its just me and the emotional stuff left and that’s the hard bit!
I still feel he was right – but would have liked some discussion about it at the very least. Seems such a lot to throw away. You asked for some effects – yes, it has been slightly more chilled at home, and it has made me think about things and focus more on what is important- ie my kids. I am lucky to have family very close and the kids have been everyone’s main focus. The kids and I spent a whole day watching chilling and watching films and doing what we wanted, and no ‘pressure’. It was wonderful, but they miss their dad so much – especially my son. My house is so much neater – bonus! I am more focused on me and that makes me sweeter towards everything! I get all the cuddles from the kids. I don’t have to share my bed – yeah! No waking up at 6am every morning. Down side – I had to explain divorce (if it come to it) to a 7 yr old!
I know it will get better, but I am having a down few days! Sorry guys, but sometimes the tears are good for you.
Will be stronger again soon – I promise!
take care all
peg
You take care too peg.
Purplepeg of course you are not to blame about what happened! What I was saying was that I was absolutely amazed that you had been so mature to have already thought about what the consequences of the relationship have been and how you could learn, so that future relationships were better FOR YOU, ie you would find happiness with somoene wonderful that deserves you! I am sorry if you felt in any way to blame, it is natural for us when relationships break down that we question ourselves. You take good care of you and your lovely children, it is hard that they misss their dad and you are doing a great job :D
Hi everyone, newbie here :)
After spending a year planning to have a baby, and at three months pregnant, I found out my fiance's business dealings weren't exactly above board, by way of a 5am raid by the fraud squad and customs and excise... They arrested us both, and released us after 48 hours. They drove us home, and we went our separate ways there and then. I used to be an accountant, and unbeknown to me, my partner was using the accounts which I'd produced for his business to get numerous dodgy mortgages. He told the police I knew all about everything, and I ended up getting charged with false accounting etc. I've only ever seen him twice since that day, when we appeared in court a few months after our son was born. He's never met him , and he's going to be 8 in november. Even all these years on, I still have this voice inside me crying 'it was never supposed to be like this'.
Oh my gosh!
My heart breaks for you there, as I know how much hard work goes into being an accountant.
Ah yes, that 'inner voice'...
Keep posting, we can have some good banters going here.
Thanks sparklinglime ...yep, a lot of years gone to waste...house, relationship and livelihood all gone in one sweep...not bad for a days work :(
But what is it about that bloody voice???? No matter what you do, it'll never shut up...when it comes to me, I'm couldn't be more 'over it' if I tried. But when it comes to my son, and the effect its had/having on him, my heart breaks at least 10 times a day, every day. The one thing he wants more than anything else in the world is a dad. Not his dad specifically, just a dad. And its the one thing in the world that i cant give him...
This sounds like a plug - but isn't, honest...
The thing that I think saved my son was Scouts. The leader there was brilliant with him (and my daughter and now 13 year old). He was consistent and gave strong boundaries that my son needed. He was 12 when he joined as a Scout - Cubs had never even occured to me.
The two leaders retired last year, which is a huge loss to our group. They're good friends still though, so are still in my son's life (who is not far off turning 18). While this chap was not a father figure, he was a consistent male role-model.
I'm not sure what would have become of my eldest if he hadn't had those boundaries and that influence in place.
It's just a thought - and needn't be Scouts, could be any activity...
Hi mummymichy
Welcome to One Space, that sounds absolutely devastating for you and is hard to move on from, no matter what. How deadful for you to implicated in the court case when you had no knowledge of this at all! Did you get any support at the time? If not (and even if you did) I am wondering if counselling would hlep you to quell that"inner voice"? What do you think?
Boys in particular seem to enjoy having a dad figure in their lives. I am not being sexist but children learn about how to take their place in our society from the adults that surround them, and small children of both sexes are often surrounded almost exclusively by females. So sparkling's idea re Scouts or another activity is a brilliant one. or youi may have members of the extended family or friends who can take on this role.
It must be harder for boys - my 7 yr old is torn apart. daughter seems to be coping ok, but son is wreak. very clingy, tells me he loves me every 5 mins (which is wonderful, but not sure its normal), and will burst into tears at the drop of a hat - the other day because he forgot to take something upstairs with him. tonight he cried in the shower. sopping wet cuddles then! the conversation was hard -
him - i miss dad
me - I know sweetheart - i miss him too
him - i didn't want him to go away
me- I know, but daddy is happy now
him - but i'm not happy
How awful does that make me - i feel like I am telling him that he has to be miserable so his dad can be happy! Thats the way it has to be so there! I don't know what to say to that.
I think the scouts is a good idea - enquired before all this kicked off, am waiting for them to get back to me but guess holidays delay things like that.
Mummymichy - I am sure you have done a fab job bringing up your son so far and you should be proud of that :D
take care
peg
Thanks everyone, I mean that. Its nice to know that I've done something right, as he's been a Beaver since middle of last year :) He'll be moving up to cubs after christmas, but the only trouble is, the leaders for both are (more!) women. Aaaargh!!! So the theory was there, it just didnt quite work out in practice... :?
He's also a (fab :D little) keeper for his footie team too...was also hoping that that might bring a bit of male-role-model type input as well. But whilst his coach is fantastic from a football angle, he's not exactly the touchy feely type, if you know what I mean :(
And as for his grandparents, mmm....well....lets just say they're two people who should never have had children in the first place...so the less said about them, the better :)
So he's basically screwed from multiple angles...I just hope he doesnt put a dad on his christmas list again this year..I dont think i could take it again. Especially when I know that he doesnt stand a chance, when its down to me to meet that special someone...I've recently been diagnosed with Asbergers, which has explained a lot about my life. I've always known I was a bit odd, and sort of different...awkward socially, not really able to relate to other peoples feelings etc etc...but at least now my oddness has got a name :roll:
It sounds to me that you're doing all you can, and doing it so well.
We've got women running the Beavers and the Cubs in our group.
My youngest plays football. Sulks as he plays defender when he wants to play attack - I tell him he does what the coach says.
Now you've had a diagnosis will you be able to have any help should you find you need it?
We have a Teddy Bear's picnic tomorrow with the scout group - we've run all summer.
I wanted to pick two : )
and