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Glad your son's on the way home Louise.
Eldest has decided to quit college today. I think he prefers 8 hours a day on fb. **sigh**
Sorry to hear about your son spaklinglime, what brought that on do you think?
It was my grandad's funeral today, H decided to come afterall, and was glad she did. A was very upset and cried all the way through, but felt ok afterwards. It was a very basic service at the crem, my grandad hated anything religious and didn't want any hymns. He also had a cardboard coffin which was very strange, it looked like a coffin shaped cardboard box, but it was what my grandad wanted. It was lovely to see my brothers and we all had a good natter about grandad and shared our memories of him, just what he would have wanted I think. The whole thing has made me think that I need to get my affairs in order, I never got round to writing a will after my divorce so I'm going to get on and sort that out.
Hope your son arived ok louise and you got his room ready in time.
Yes thank you, PQ. I am so glad that the girls both went to the funeral. How are you feeling? I hope you will be kind to yourself over the next couple of days 
I'm so glad your daughters were with you. Such a sad and difficult time xx
Hi pq, when an older person dies at the end of their life, I find funerals a funny affair, because they are immensely sad, but it also unites the family and everyone gets to see one another and also have a good time.
sparklinglime, I hope that your friends day went well, very different circumstances as she wasn't into old age yet. I hope you are being kind to yourself.
I hope hazeleyes is having a good day, the weather here is nice.
I will be going back to the running thing, but I will be having a word with the instructor as I felt really let down by him.
Louise I hope your son has arrived safe and sound without bundles of washing 
Hi all.
Pq, so pleased the girls were with you at the funeral. Hope you're okay.
Sparkling, what made your son quit college, do you know?
Am sure Louise is up to her eyes with eldest's washing!! Hope not though, but just enjoying his visit.
Anna, yes, you should definately speak to the instructor. Give him what for!!!
A good day yesterday, but very tiring. Not home until 8.40, absolutely starving, but C just wanted bed, so made him a quick sandwich, little sausages, glass of juice, and as soon as his head hit pillow, he was out like a light. I pottered around, bath, two cups of tea (no drink all day), quarter of a sandwich, and then bed. Real bad night though, stomach playing up (think it was lack of food) C woke a few times, with sore throat, so decided neither of us was fit for school. Texted appropriate people at 7, then went to sleep til 9ish. Feel like a zombie right now! Still......
Hi hazeleyes, glad that yesterday went well, I hope that you are both feeling better after a relaxing day today?
sparklinglime I completely negated your comment on your eldest quitting college, I do apologise. Has he given a reason? He knows how difficult the job market is right now, what does he plan to do with himself?
I know when my daughter decided to quit on A levels I was devastated, as a parent it is so scary, but they have to sort themselves out, because I'm sure you, as well as myself have tried to show him all his options, all the pros and cons etc, so rather than worry too much, think of it as a phase and he will find his way.
Hope you feel a bit better for having a day off hazeleyes....sometimes we just have to get off the roundabout and recharge our batteries.
The girls were left some money in grandad's will, its burning a big hole in their pockets and they've spent it 20 times over in their heads already!! I'm torn between letting them have their dream purchases (Ipad, samsung tablet etc) and making them save it for a rainy day. It would be interesting to hear everyone elses thoughts on this one??
It's difficult pq as they know the money is there... Good luck with that decision Perhaps spend half?
Sorry you're poorly hazeleyes, and hope you're feeling better this evening.
Eldest is 20. He has made a decision and will now have consequences with a reality kick...
Evening all.
Just popping on to check it is still illegal to sell your children on Ebay? It is? Best find another plan then...
J is struggling with tiredness with having started school. His behaviour the past couple of days has been shocking. He has gone from a pleasant little boy to an absolute terror. He's been throwing things, sticking his tongue out and answering back and shouting at me. Bedtime tonight ended up with me crying because he was being so awful. Strangely this calms him down because it scares him to see me cry. I do try not to do it, but tonight I couldn't take any more.
I have managed to get him in bed and asleep tonight for 7.00pm but this is such a rush. Now he is at school I have to give him dinner when we get in, where before he would be fed at nursery. We don't get in until quarter past five and he is already tired at this point.
Has anyone got any ideas of how I can get my pleasant little boy back? I hate feeling like this about him 
Pq, I would be tempted to let them have their dream purchases. It would also remind them of their Grandad. How lovely of him
I'm feeling much better thankyou, but C is poorly. Not in bed poorly, but typical man poorly hehe. Yes his throat hurts, he has a runny nose (developed today) but I'm dog tired still, so lacking in sympathy! Have texted woman at school, as don't think he'll be there, which of course means I won't be there. Cannot leave him for 4 hours on his own. Means of course I don't get paid, but hey ho, what can you do!!
Hi Looby. Noooooo don't sell him, have you tried the Pawn shops? Hehe. The poor little lad, he must be shattered with starting all day school and everything. It does take them time to settle into a routine etc. The behaviour obviously is coming from tiredness, so although you can't let him get away with it, you can sympathise. Uhmm, did I? Probably not, lol. I think I found, by the time C had settled into a routine, holidays were upon us, and the cycle seemed to start again. It will get easier of course, so hang in there. Getting to bed early is of course good for him, but a rush for you. Could you prepare dinners at weekends, so it is easier for you?
When you find the right pawn shop, please let me know!!!!
Hazeleyes - have decided we are having beans on toast for tea the rest of the week! I do sympathise with him beccause I know it is tiredness but as you say, he can't get away with everything. Will keep you posted on the pawn shop 
PQ - my sister had this very same problem recently. The children were allowed to spend the money on what they wanted, BUT they all had to pick a charity and make a donation and write a letter to the charity. Eldest spent most of his on nights out, but as he said, Grandad would have loved to see him enjoying life!
Thanks everyone, it is a hard decision but I think I may let them have what they want, it would please grandad to see them enjoy it, he loved them so much. They did get a reasonable amount so could still save some too.
Hi Looby, does J have school dinners? Maybe you could have something light and quick in the evening if he gets a hotmeal at luchtime. Or hazeleyes suggestion may work, as long as you have time to do the pre-preparing at weekend. Where does he go after school before you pick him up? I have often thought about putting my little angels on ebay, but I must admit I like the pawn shop idea, that way you could buy them back when you've calmed down
J won't eat school dinners. He is a picky eater. I would love him to have dinners, but having looked at the menu knew there was no chance! He goes to the after school club where he gets a sandwich, but I am trying to get him to eat a proper meal at night. It was so much easier when he was at nursery and I didn't have to feed him!!
Sounds like a pawn shop would be a good business opportunity
heh heh I had to laugh about the ebay and pawn shop thing
Hi Looby J is just totally shattered, and will build his stamina up before long. I agree a quick tea is the answer...but if he is having packed lunch then another sandwich at nursery then maybe more bread isn't always the answer. You know what he will eat...I would do a bit of cooking at the weekend and save an extra portion (freeze it?) I know everyone laughs at me for mince but it is very versatile and you could cook a pack with onions then divide it into J-sized portions in little freezer bags or pots then he could have it with pasta, rice, potatoes and different sauces. how about a mini chicken casserole with the veggies he will eat already in it? Does he like tuna? that is very quick with pasta, or you could cook him egg and beans.
Hi hazeleyes how is the patient today? Hopefully you both had a better night.
Sparkling it sounds as if you are exasperated with eldest. Job-seeking ahoy! It's not easy to get things these days so he will have to be persistent. How are you feeling?
PQ it sounds as if the girls could have a really nice item each and save some cash as well. I am trying to encourage youngest to start saving. His dad is still sending the princely child support amount of £40 a month so I am putting that away for him and suggesting son gives me money every month to save for a holiday.
Hopeful how are you doing today?
Eldest did not bring any laundry, he did his own and left it on the airer in his room before he set off. Phew! There have been high-level pow-wows about HIS finances, he has a credit card debt and I think it might be more sensible for me to pay it off for him and him to pay me back monthly, interest free, if I can manage to pay it off, the amount is not as bad as I had feared. He has been paying it every month but almost all of his payment is interest so I worked out it would take about 20 years to pay off if just making the minimum payment, instead of two years paying me! I have made him cut up his card anyway.We (myself and eldest) are going to a curry and quiz night in a restaurant in town tonight, organised by the church.
What is everyone up to today?
Hi all.
Louise - I would love it if J would eat mince. The only meat he will eat is chicken, only eat carrots, does like potatoes but does not really like any sauces other than ketchup! To think I prepared all fresh foods for him when weaning and he used to eat everything! He is getting a bit more adventurous. Tonight for tea we have had pasta with a plain tomato sauce and garlic bread. I got him involved in making it with me and he really enjoyed it. His eyes were drooping as he finished the last few mouthfuls! Then we had some snuggles and watched some tv before he went to bed. It was lovely. Won't be putting him on Ebay tonight.
Hope everyone else has had a good day.
Hope you both enjoyed the evening Louise.
Looby, sounds like little J is just dog tired doesn't it? Glad he's escaped Ebay, lol
C has the flu!! Poor thing. Dosing him with calpol, vick on his chest, and he's spent all of the day in bed, resting his 'jelly' legs. Have to say, it's been luvvvvllllyyy and quiet, so I know he must be poorly. I'm heading off to bed soon, as I'm shattered now, even though I've done nothing today (to speak of anyway)
Hope everyone else is okay. Getting colder in the evenings now (hrt tabs beginning to work on hot flushes Louise)
I'm sorry he's poorly Hazeleyes.
Oldest has 24 hours at work now, plus any overtime he can get.
He has been very rude though, and yesterday was interesting.
Well it is good that he has 24 hours work at least, sparkling. He needs to give you some of his wages towards his keep. This has gone down like a lead balloon in this house, with youngest, until eldest told him that his own rent, bills, food etc costs £650 a month so youngest paying £150 is a really good deal. He still sulked though 
How are your feeling, sparkling?
Oh no, the flu, hope you are immune to his germs hazeleyes. Did you get a decent night?
Looby that sounds like a better evening. J will get better with food as he gets older. In the meantime, go with the flow.
PQ, Hopeful, how are you?
Eldest has gone back this morning, he is at work at 10 so went to catch the train. We had a fab night last night, such a good laugh, although he got a bit feisty after a large beer so I said I was too tired for a cultural debate, haha.
Hi everyone,
Looby, my eldest is a nightmare with food. For ages she would just eat plain pasta, plain rice, Richmond sausages, cucumber and carrot...it drove me mad. She's now getting brave and trying different things, we're up to a chicken Korma which is big step for her
Glad you had a good time with your eldest louise, nice to see him support you with your youngest and the 'keep' issue.
Starting to remember how annoying little kittens can be....
Good morning all. C is on laptop in bed. We've always done a scale of 1-10 with how poorly he is feeling. 10 being the highest. His throat is a 2 (yeah) achey legs 7, so maybe another day of rest. Sister has phoned to say she is visiting her daughter tonight, and she would see if she could pick C up in the morning, and have him for the day tomorrow, so I could go in to work. I've been worrying over the work issue, elderly neighbour has said C is old enough to be left on his own, but my conscience is definately saying no. I've left him to go to a supermarket, but kept in touch by mobile, and it's never been more than an hour. Wouldn't do it for a morning at work, or like tomorrow, a whole day at work. Yes, he's sensible, but anything could happen couldn't it? He's only just turned 10 for goodness sake, and he's poorly. What do others think?
That's great for your son and the hours Sparkling, hope it continues. I know this is a huge worry for you. xx
Louise, great that you have your eldest on side with the 'keep' money. From day one of working, we always had to pay our way. My brother however always made a huge fuss of not paying if he was away on holiday, and never saw why he still had to pay for rent etc!! Glad you got to spend some time with eldest.
Anna, how did the running go this week? Did you have a word with the instructor?
Pq, is the kitten settling in okay? Now, I wouldn't mind a kitten, but then of course they grow!!
Looby, hope J is not too tired after school today, and everything runs smoothly.
Hi hazeleyes,
I wouldn't leave my eldest at home whilst I went to work and she's 11 and as you said C is also ill. I think you're doing the right thing by staying at home with him.
The issue with my kitten is, he's settled in too well, and is getting into things he shouldn't and being a general mischieve maker!! He doesn't take any notice of me, the only way I can get his attention is by blowing on him!!! Think I might get a water pistol
Kitten sounds like a typical child pq, hehe
Yes...a naughty one!
I will come round with the water pistol, pq
Hazeleyes, C is rallying, that's good. I do think (personally) that 10 is too young to be left for any period of time if a child is not well. I had a terrible time once when I was running a St John's Ambulance First Aid thing and people were coming from all over and there was no-one I could ask to step in (it was at a church hall) Youngest was about 8 I think. I took him along and made a little bed for him in the vestry and he just stayed in there, dozing.and I kept popping in. Have never stopped feeling guilty ever since. Anyway that's great if C will be cared for tomorrow.
Eldest has gone back but will return on Sunday night...his fulltime hours do not start for another week or two.
So pleased you're in agreement about the age thing. Was beginning to think there was something wrong with me!! Sister has called. Her Grandson is ill, high temperature etc, so I'm staying home with C tomorrow. I'm not going on a guilt trip anymore, so that's it 
Yes, I'm losing money, but I'll try and do some overtime next week, if not, then I'll manage. After all, I've managed on a lot less eh.
Great attitude hazeleyes, your C is more important.
Hello everyone, not been on in a while. It's been a busy time here with my grandparents visiting (haven't seen them in a year). It hasn't gone very smoothly (a very long story I shall tell another time) but to top it all I've been rather 'unwell'. Last week I fell off my mare. Am posting about that in my own thread in a bit as it's a long one.
Sounds like you guys have been up to plenty. PQ, love kittens, we have one of our own here, they are full of trouble. Ours has taken to sleeping in the bathtub and drinking from the tap. *sigh*
Hazeleyes, I'd stay home with them at that age. I hate leaving my kids when they're ill and mine are somewhat older. Hope he's feeling heaps better now.
Looby, kids returning to school or starting is never fun for us parents. They get so tired and grumpy. My 17 yr old son is already starting with the rudeness and he only does four days a week. Had such a yell at him tonight. I hate raising my voice but I won't be spoken to like that! He has apologised now. Still very grumpy though.
What a week. And its only Thursday. First can of cider I've had for ages... Glad I can have a quiet day tomorrow...
Ian Duncan Smith and the universal credits on the news... As if he knows what we go through...
Its cost a £100million so far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good heavens, can't get my head round that sum of money. Sounds as if you are having a stressful week, sparkling. Sorry to hear that. Can we send you a hug?
Hazleyes hopefully C will be fighting fit by Monday.
Hello lady telita, I was sorry to hear about your fall and have had a chat to you on your thread.
How is everyone today? My youngest is off to Newcastle for the weekend (friend at Uni there) so it will be quiet......until Sunday evening when both boys descend once more!
So glad its friday .
My best friend is coming to stay tonight, so I'm really looking forward to that.
Enjoy your peace and quiet louise.
Hope you're on the mend now ladytelita.
Enjoy your time with friend pq. It'll be lovely.
Make the most of your peace Louise!
Sparkling, hope you can rest some today.
C is watching TV in bed. Now I know he must be under the weather still, as he didn't even moan when told him about my sister. Now, that's a first!!
TA is bringing his backpack home for me at lunchtime. I rang her earlier to see if she could do it. She finishes work at 1pm, and didn't mind at all. Other friend rang me at 8am to see if I'd pick her son up from school, as she is doing something. Explained I hadn't been there all week (obviously not even noticed) so I couldn't do it. Great huh!!
Well at least you had a really good excuse for not picking the boy up!
Enjoy your evening with your friend PQ.
Youngest has arrived at his destination
I've slept most of the day. Another migraine. That's three in 10 days! I'd been doing so well not having had one for ages too... Never mind.
Glad you're youngest has arrived at Newcastle.
I hope C's recovering Hazeleyes. It's horrid when they're proper poorly.
Awww Sparkling, that's awful. I do hope the migraines stop for you. I've only ever had one and that was bad enough!
Have a nice evening PQ, it's always nice to have good company. I am on the mend but I have no patience at all and will push myself to be better in the shortest possible time....which is daft really because it'll take as long as it takes. *sigh*
Rode my mare for the first time since the fall today. Only a short walk but it was good, until I had to get off! That was a total ouch moment.
Apart from the ride the day was a total loss. Spent it waiting for the saddler who never turned up! So angry and disappointed; it's never nice to be let down, but I had to subject my son to it all too. His day off from college and he spent it bored waiting around with me. Took him to MacD's as a treat for being so patient.
Good to get back on your horse again, lady t. I expect your son enjoyed his burger!
Sparkling let's hope for a clearer head for you today, I used to have migraines as a young woman (stress related) and have great sympathy for anyone who suffers them.
How is C this morning, Hazeleyes?
Did you have a great time with your friend PQ?
No news from Newcastle. Trying not to let my imagination run riot! Today I am working on the new Parents of Teenagers course I will be facilitating, got to get handouts ready and decide on timings for the material etc, I would love to nail sessions one and two today but suspect this is a bit ambitious
Spent the morning sitting in a church yard in the sunshine. Scouts made a scarecrow on Thursday to enter a competition. Such a laugh trying to get it in the car to get there... The Scouts' scarecrow won - as it was the only one with straw.
My friend who died 2 weeks ago tomorrow, her husband and friends have gone up Snowdon to raise money for her cause. Everyone to wear sparkles. Perfect day for going up there too.
Hope you've heard something by now Louise, and hope the course went well.
I'm glad you've been on your horse lady t...
Hi everyone,
My friend has gone now, had a great time, my neighbour came round for a bit too and we sat in my new kitchen and put the world to rights!! Sat up til 2am so feeling a bit jaded today, looking forward to my bed.
Hope you feel better today sparkling, I've only had a migraine once and it was awful, really feel for you. Sounds like you had a good time today, yay for winning the scarecrow competition.
Hope you have all had a good day in the sun.
Sister came round today, which was nice. Wasn't expecting her, so I wasn't dressed or anything. Didn't bother either, hehe. Had an awful nights sleep, so shall be heading for bed soon. C is much much better which is lovely to see, but back to the noise here with Harry Potter spells!!!
Hope you heard from your son Louise. How did the course go?
pq, sounds like you had a lovely, if a late, evening.
Sparkling, who went for the chips? Glad you've had a good day. Hope those up Snowdon raised lots of money for this worthy cause. x
Eldest is announcing to the world that he can't wait to get an iphone...
He hasn't seen what the housekeeping rate is for here yet!!!
Heh heh we have had some chuntering about an i-phone here. I pointed out that if he could accept that having 5,000 t shirts was probably sufficient, he could manage to save up and get one. Great that the scarecrow won, sparkling, I was imagining getting it in the car, "put your seatbelt on, Wurzel" Hope your friends get on well with the fundraising.
C is better, hazeleyes, normal service is resumed and Harry Potter rides again! That was nice that you saw your sister.
PQ hope you had a good sleep after your late night. Girly nights are soooooo fab
The course was one I was preparing, it does not start till Nov 7th. I made some good headway with session one. The later sessions take less work as they are when parents bring in a real life problem from home and the group discusses it, for example.
Something to make you giggle. A friend of mine was facilitating a parenting course and after talking to them about setting an example, she asked the parents what they wanted to change about their young people's behaviour. One woman said "I just wish my daughter would stop f***ing swearing" HAHA
BOTH boys are descending here at teatime, peace will be very much shattered. Did get a text from Newcastle Boy saying he was having a really good time, which could mean a hideous range of possibilities 
Hope everyone will have a good day
Hehe Louise, what was your friend's response? Make the most of your quiet day, until the boys return.
Am looking into kindles for my BIL's birthday. Do you have to buy a charger with them, or does it come with? To be honest, it doesn't seem to come with much info, unless I'm not looking properly!
Not much ironing to do today, yeahhhh. Going to have bad weather here, wind and rain, so I really need to go in garden and rescue chairs and pots etc, before the 'storm' starts.
Hope you all have a good day. Sausages for dinner here. What with? Who knows hehe
Oooh dont know anything about kindles, hopefully someone else will.
Sausages yum, I am having meal tonight with the boys, got some meat in the slow cooker, might have to eke it out a bit as did not realise eldest would be here too when I bought it. A couple of mini Yorkshire puddings ahould do the trick.
My friend did actually say to the lady that one of the best ways she could help her daughter was by not swearing herself
You're right, Hazeleyes, the forecast isn't very promising, I have got the gas fire on here!
My heating is back on now, it feels sooo cold.
A had been out all day at her friends, she's been home half an hour and has manage to upset both me and H and has now been banished to her room until dinner 
, hope the rest of the evning is better. We've got roast chicken for dinner. Apple and blackberry crumble for pudding, blackberries picked from just outside the front door, don't you just love free food!!
pq, I must have missed my invite!! Mouthwatering, yummmmm
Louise, just top it all up with veg and the yorkies. They'll never know.
We've had quite a nice day weatherwise, thank goodness, as the road to get the scarecrow is horrid when its dry... Scarecrow now deposited on chair in the scout hut.
Tea is still cooking here (well, the potatoes are - chicken casserole been in slow cooker). I'm sorry A's upset you. I do hope things settle
I did laugh at what your friend said Louise! We're struggling with my daughter's best friend at the mo as she swears and is having to learn not to when here
Kindle comes with USB charger. I sent for a plug from ebay (other good online auction sites available ) though and you do just plug the USB bit into the plug...
Thankyou Sparkling.
Glad scarecrow is okay, and you've had good weather. Been absolutely awful here, non stop rain. C has said the winds are going to be bad, and weather man has advised not to go out unless you have too. Hmmmm, is it school tomorrow
Oh, PQ, we are all masters and mistresses of diversionary tactics!
How is everyone today? Eldest is on the train to here so I had better finish getting his room ready