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Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Paula

if your daughter really wants to go then you could let her but perhaps only for a short visit this time, She also needs her dad's reassurance that she can come home if she feels unsettled. it may be a shcok to her to see her dad with another woman. It sounds to me as if thius new woman feels very insecure about things, otherwise she would sit back a bit and let it all happen.

Good about not texting anymore; texts can so so easily misunderstood and one-to-one chat is best. Poor you, you had a rotten evening with all this going on. Sy is right, it is very early days for them and once the honeymoon glow has gone then it may be a different story......

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 12:24pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Good afternoon
I’m sorry I didn’t post, I could hardly move after we watched Men in Black II, Dr Who, Torchwood then some funny thing. I can’t remember when I last sat that long in front of a television.

I had all those goodies to eat and couldn’t face them. The children did though!! Haha

By the time my daughter was home from camp and my son home from work is was 7.40pm before I started to open my cards and presents. And after midnight by then.

One of the mum’s of the Explorer’s bought me a small bottle of wine – so I drank that with sparkling water. However, not even vaguely tipsy.

So I am sorry I didn’t post any drunken ramblings. I did think of it, but loading the dishwasher sort of finished of the day…

I shall catch up with posts now…

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 12:43pm
sadsy

Paulasgems,
I'm trying to understand what has happened. I get confused. I need to read slowly.

Quote:
I done a silly thing. It was all going so well until then.

Hmmm, not likely as much as I know you. Possibly attempting too much too soon is my guess.

Quote:
Eldest & youngest was talking to ex on phone at last!

OK, so they have not spoken with him since his leaving, and now are. They have felt hurt and angry? Communication is good, as you have said he is a caring dad, he loves them and they love him. Dialogue is positive step forward for them emotionally.

Quote:
i was too & he said how nice it was to talk to me.

He will feel better for talking with you. He would have felt guilt so far and thinking you are OK with him will ease his discomfort. On plus side, things can go more smoothly with dialogue.

Quote:
we arranged him coming here this week to see kids & take 13 yr old back with him.

You have talked and agreed for him to stay in old home for a set time and behavioural conditions and take one child away to Scotland aftwerwards for a pre-determined time. Eeerm. Have I got this right?

Quote:
Then 13 yr old came in to say 'she' 25 & Dad asked her what she thinks about it!

OK, so 13 year old having independent conversations you're not privy to. Conversation ends and 13 year old comes to you to tell you one part of conversation that is bothering her. Age difference mentioned by dad. He's worried what she will think when she visits and sees new partner is young.

Quote:
so 'I' tell him in text what 'I' think about it (result of not being told anything by him all this time! & then he blurts things out to them!)

Hmmm. You will get different messages from him to children than to you. We all filter what we say to an extent for different listeners. If this is causing more hurt and confusion and affecting children, assert your parental responsibility and put restrictions on communications. What was your text like? You are hurt because she is young?

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Girlfriend text me! back to my text to HIM! I text her back & him!

Yes, this is where he is in different "place" to you. I think you still see him as partner to you. He is now partner to someone else and they work as a team to handle you. This change is upsetting. It is a bit of your old life dying away and it hurts. I get that too. I wanted to go to Luke's assessment. Louise would not tell me where it was and took lover instead. He goes and advises everywhere with her in her plans for handling me. I used to trust Louise to be truthful at the beginning. Lost that on week 1.

Quote:
Daughter phone him, angry girlfriend text me & upset me.

Hmm this is where I get lost. 13 year old phones father, but what was said and why? Girlfriend angry about....what and why? She try to hurt you with words on text as result of her anger.

Quote:
I didn't know she was doing it, she made it worst because she said things, I still dont know what.

Oh help, who said what to who?

Quote:
Girldriend now thinks I am trying to turn them against Dad! telling me I have given them one story that untrue. I have not given them any story cause I dont know anything still!!

OK, yes I've had this. Louise thinks I tell Luke to say particular things, when all I encourage him to do is say how he feels to her and ask her why if he does not understand. She hates it.

OK, yes you are seeing that multiple lines of communication causing confusion and hurt.
I would be inclined to have comms shared for a while. Eg, put on speakerphone for everyone so no private conversations which cause chinese whispers effect, suspicion and confusion. No mixed messages from him or playing everyone off eachother.

Quote:
come to sort things out face to face

Could help, but girlfriend is not there and he will not stick to agreement if she disagrees with what he agreed when he goes back. He would not want to lose his support by being firm with her. What would he do and where would he go if she get cross with him and reject him? He will put her first unless threat to children. He needs her.

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I dont know what to do now daughter still wants to go but I am concerned by this womans reaction to things & also his reaction to her interfearance. could he still be drinking, her too. I no longer have any trust & do not think daughter should go but dont know if I can stop her?

OK, you are mum, and what you say goes. If you decide it is not safe, then it is not safe. This can be just interim until you trust them to be responsible, not forever. I'm worried about one child getting different access to the others. What do other children think about solitary visit? I think it is too soon. Also I'm worried about him coming to house. He is not the same person, or bound by the same ties as before, as you are finding. Emotionally explosive to have him confined into old home.

I think you are doing well though. Sort the comms out. Single line, everyone hears everything on speakerphone. No private chats.

Sorry if I've got this all round wrong way. Had trouble understanding what happened. Have terrible headache.

sy

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 12:47pm
sadsy

Hello Sparkling,
did miss your drunken post. Never going to happen with watered down wine!

Quote:
Good afternoon
I’m sorry I didn’t post, I could hardly move after we watched Men in Black II, Dr Who, Torchwood then some funny thing. I can’t remember when I last sat that long in front of a television.

I had all those goodies to eat and couldn’t face them. The children did though!! Haha

By the time my daughter was home from camp and my son home from work is was 7.40pm before I started to open my cards and presents. And after midnight by then.

One of the mum’s of the Explorer’s bought me a small bottle of wine – so I drank that with sparkling water. However, not even vaguely tipsy.

So I am sorry I didn’t post any drunken ramblings. I did think of it, but loading the dishwasher sort of finished of the day…

I shall catch up with posts now…

Hope you have a Happy Birthday Week. Yes my idea is that birthdays last a week now. Not just one day.

Love
sy

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 12:55pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Paulasgems wrote:
I am so frustrated I have now lost two posts! :cry: one at 3 in morning in rant room, really long! I just cried when lost it & one here lost again, this time I saved but when I went to drafts it was not there!

Oh Sy, I'm so sorry, I know I have my kids. you are a fantstic Dad & should have yours too! I dont know what our ex's are doing I think they are making up stories in heads to ease their guilt & justify their actions!
You are a lovely man, so thoughtful & caring & funny :D I dont know how you can be treated like this :x

I done a silly thing :oops: It was all going so well until then. Eldest & youngest was talking to ex on phone at last! i was too & he said how nice it was to talk to me. we arranged him coming here this week to see kids & take 13 yr old back with him.
Then 13 yr old came in to say 'she' 25 & Dad asked her what she thinks about it! so 'I' tell him in text what 'I' think about it :oops: (result of not being told anything by him all this time! & then he blurts things out to them!)
Girlfriend text me! back to my text to HIM! I text her back & him! daughter phone him, angry girlfriend text me & upset me. I didn't know she was doing it, she made it worst because she said things, I still dont know what. Girldriend now thinks I am trying to turn them against Dad! telling me I have given them one story that untrue. I have not given them any story cause I dont know anything still!! :x

None of this makes any sense to me things dont add up at all, either she is playing games trying to cause trouble between me & ex & kids OR he has told pack of lies about me to make himself look good.
I have told him I am changing mobile & no longer comm by text with him & that he will need to phone me on landline if he needs to speak. I have made it clear he still welcome here & that he should come to sort things out face to face. Also made clear I do not use children, & do not give them any stories!

I dont know what to do now daughter still wants to go but I am concerned by this womans reaction to things & also his reaction to her interfearance. could he still be drinking, her too. I no longer have any trust & do not think daughter should go but dont know if I can stop her?

Sy I'm ready to listen to you now, I wont go on about me.
Paula x

Hi Paula

Don’t ever think you’ve done anything silly. As I’ve said before I would text ex…

He will be doing everything he can to make himself good.

He will be pointing the finger mainly your way, and every other direction but his own as to who’s to blame.

He will consider it to be none of your business what goes on in his life, however, will expect to know everything that’s going on in yours.

All this is based on the conclusion’s I’ve reached about The Git.

As Louise has said, have some assurances in place with your daughter staying. Would you be able to collect her if she did want to come back? As you’ve said about the 25 year old, she’s probably not had many life experiences.

The main consideration – as I know you know, is that your daughter will be safe…

Loads of hugs and strength. It’s such early days still, for all of you.

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 12:58pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Hi Sy

I'm sure you were tired after the weekend and all the emotions that have happened with work too. I'll let you off with a lie-in. I had one today :D I could have crowned the 'demanding' friend who phoned at 8.30am yesterday, after I decided I wasn't going to get up and went back to sleep.

I hope you had a good weekend with the children.

Please Sy, focus on the weekend you've had with the children. I hope you had an absolutely fantastic time!

I hope that work can put some positive steps in place to help you here. World's your oyster here...

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 1:13pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

sadsy wrote:
Hello Sparkling,
did miss your drunken post. Never going to happen with watered down wine!

Quote:
Good afternoon
I’m sorry I didn’t post, I could hardly move after we watched Men in Black II, Dr Who, Torchwood then some funny thing. I can’t remember when I last sat that long in front of a television.

I had all those goodies to eat and couldn’t face them. The children did though!! Haha

By the time my daughter was home from camp and my son home from work is was 7.40pm before I started to open my cards and presents. And after midnight by then.

One of the mum’s of the Explorer’s bought me a small bottle of wine – so I drank that with sparkling water. However, not even vaguely tipsy.

So I am sorry I didn’t post any drunken ramblings. I did think of it, but loading the dishwasher sort of finished of the day…

I shall catch up with posts now…

Hope you have a Happy Birthday Week. Yes my idea is that birthdays last a week now. Not just one day.

Love
sy

I quite agree :D

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 1:14pm
sadsy

Paulasgems,

Quote:
I am so frustrated I have now lost two posts! one at 3 in morning in rant room, really long! I just cried when lost it & one here lost again, this time I saved but when I went to drafts it was not there!

OK, posts take a long time. Select all and Copy them into your computer memory at key points, especially at the the end when system may have logged you out for time span.

If it prompts for login, use back button to get your typed post page back, copy it, and then forward button to login. If you just login, you will find message box empty! Paste into empty box.

Remember to secure One Space, when/if ex comes to stay. Do daughters know about it?

sy

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 1:21pm
sadsy

Sparkling,

Quote:
I hope that work can put some positive steps in place to help you here. World's your oyster here...

Help, I don't know what you mean?

love sy

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 1:25pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

sadsy wrote:
Sparkling,

Quote:
I hope that work can put some positive steps in place to help you here. World's your oyster here...

Help, I don't know what you mean?

love sy

They might offer some good courses to you.

Your package - this is what you'll have to live off for a while.

Get emails of those who work with you and do stay in touch if you can...

Change of career maybe?

Business skills - working from home - although it's good working with other adults. Life at home is lonely.

That's what I sort of meant.

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 1:56pm
sadsy

Hello Sparkling,

I'm too hairy.

sy

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 2:05pm
sadsy

Unhappy Anniversay simon!

Unhappy Anniversary it's two months since we split
I walk and talk and get around, lie down, stand up and sit
I eat and drink and mope and sleep, live a little bit
Unhappy Anniversary it's two months since we split

Unhappy Anniversary it's 12 years since we met
There is no need to remind me, no way I could forget
We fell in love and we fell out,
Both times there was no net
Unhappy Anniversary it's 12 years since we met

Unhappy Anniversary I cannot count the days
And nights that I have thought of you
Since we went separate ways
I tell my mind to forget you but my heart disobeys
Unhappy Anniversary I cannot count the days

tears today.

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 3:23pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Too hairy?

Oh...

Well, the children and I were going out for a birthday meal tomorrow to the place eldest works.
The Git wants to see them, 6 - 8pm, so that's the end of those plans. Bits and pieces going on the rest of the week so can't.

I think my birthday ended yesterday.

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 4:08pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Me oh My!

Hallo all! I have just spent the day trying to catch up with the posts and have only just finished reading this one topic, I am exhausted! :|

Thank you for all your well wishes for my week off, I was really touched. I had a lovely time and it all went too quickly, but its good to see you all again!

Happy Birthday for yesterday Sparklinglime, I am so glad to read that you had a happy one and your friends and loved ones showed you how loved and appreciated you are :D

I have just seen that you have added a message and I say NOOOO, your birthday did not end yesterday, what about going for meal on Weds or Thurs or Fri???

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 4:14pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Sadsy - Hi, you have been on such a rollercoaster since I last read the boards a week ago. Sorry to hear about the redundancy, but I love the idea someone suggested to you about the world being your oyster, although it was good for you to have that consistency, this means that you can do whatever you want, career change might just be the life changing thing you need right now - it also means that you are entitled to Legal Aid, so perhaps you can sort a solicitor out now?

It was lovely to read that Arwen came to stay and it sounds as if it all went pretty smoothly - car troubles excluded!. Today you have hit the come down from the buzz of hanging out with the children over the weekend. Thats normal, please go to Tesco's and treat yourself to something, it would be good for the fresh air and exertion on bike, good to have a treat, and great for the butt muscles and you never know what kind of adventure/chance encounter you might have. ;)

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 4:14pm
sadsy

Sparkling,
your Birthday meal comes first.

The Git can rearrange for once.

It's your turn.

love sy

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 4:15pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hear hear ;)

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 4:15pm
sadsy

Anna,
really nice to have you back! :P

Hope you had a fabulous break!

Louise did a fantastic job of support on her own.
She also put-up with a great deal of nonsense from me.

love

sy

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 4:21pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Paulasgems, you too have been on a rollercoaster. How are you today?

I want to reiterate what everyone else has said, 'DON'T BEAT YOURSELF UP FOR REACTING'

25 years old eh! Poor thing, the stories that he will have told her about you will definitely have her on his side. I don't know how old he is, but he is probably able to pull the wool over her eyes quite easily. Another thing I thought when reading your posts was that she may well be a drinker too, therefore she might not see his drinking as a problem.

I was really impressed when I read that you spoke to her and she apologised, she is SO caught in the middle of this all, with very little knowledge of the whole story - goodness she was only 8 when you guys first got together (have I got my sums right here?).

As for your girls, they are old enough to decide if they want to see their dad, so get their opinions and just go with it. He will dig his own hole in the end.

I hope you have a good eve and you are feeling a little better than the weekend. I will be back tomorrow catching up with other posts and hopefully get a chance to say hi to everyone. :)

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 4:22pm
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Thanks sy :D

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 4:23pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Anna wrote:
Me oh My!

Hallo all! I have just spent the day trying to catch up with the posts and have only just finished reading this one topic, I am exhausted! :|

Thank you for all your well wishes for my week off, I was really touched. I had a lovely time and it all went too quickly, but its good to see you all again!

Happy Birthday for yesterday Sparklinglime, I am so glad to read that you had a happy one and your friends and loved ones showed you how loved and appreciated you are :D

I have just seen that you have added a message and I say NOOOO, your birthday did not end yesterday, what about going for meal on Weds or Thurs or Fri???

I'm so glad you had a good week :D

RAF Cosford tomorrow
Cubs/Scouts Thursday
Then my eldest is back at work...

Saves some money!! I just fancied having a meal cooked for me. :roll: Very lazy...

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 4:29pm
sadsy

Sadsy,

requests the pleasure of the company of

the lovely Louise
(long-suffering moderator)

at

the wishing chair

on 4th August 2009 at 6.00pm.

No canapes will be served, nor will there be a champagne reception.
You may consume a curry prior to commencement.

A full-on wishlist and some scrunchies are the only attendance requirements.
Black tie optional. We regret that no partners or ex partners may attend.

The evening will end with a short period of oooh-ing and aaah-ing.

RSVP sadsy.

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 4:31pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

sadsy wrote:
Sparkling,
your Birthday meal comes first.

The Git can rearrange for once.

It's your turn.

love sy

We had discussed it, and the children had agreed that The Git could wait. However, daughter says she didn't agree, and now they're not so keen on the meal idea.

Guess they know they'll have dvd and sweets, which is a better offer :D

The weekend was ok though. Which was good. Glad I hadn't got around to putting my cards up. I'd be taking them down now!

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 4:32pm
sadsy

no no no,
cards stay up all week!

It's your birthday week.

love sy

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 4:34pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Maybe later.
I wish the children could have felt able to have decided to stick to the meal idea though. I realises its hard for them - and at the end of the day, I'm just 'here' anyway, and they know I will be.

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 4:50pm
sadsy

Sparkling,
oooooouuuuh grrrrrrr, I get sooooooo cross with you madame!

You stop that self-sacrificing thing right now.
It's your birthday!

You are special, it's your special week, and you deserve to be treated specially.

Grrr, you are so lucky I'm not near. I draaaaag you out for meal. Each of your children would do small poem about how fantastic you are at table. Then, lots of scoffing and stories. Lots of booze too for you. We all carry you to car (we explain to restaurant you have medical condition, that's why your legs going in different directions). Buy 40 kitchen roll packs as cushions (they're on offer you know!). We get in and tie Tescos trolley to back bumper. You go in Tescos trolley and we tow you home (slowly). All sing Killers song! Dogs bark as you arrive. We place you in front of telly and hide till morning. Then when you awake (didn't know you snored!) we pretend it was all a dream.

So count yourself lucky!

sy

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 5:12pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

They made me a lovely card.

I did enjoy yesterday, and so did they.

I'll never be first Sy - and I don't mind really :)

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 5:45pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Well, a bit today, maybe...

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 5:45pm
sadsy

had some bad news from Louise, see rant.

On day 4, I begged her to not hurt me anymore out of my tear wet, swollen face.

Why hurt me more?

sy

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 7:17pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

I don't know what to say here, Sy, I'm sorry.

I left everything with ex, so he couldn't chase me for anything - oh sorry, he did demand the loan of the camcorder, which he never brought back. I kept the tapes though, as he know he put them on american format tape for the texan.

I would refuse her access, and call the police. She may have 'told' your mother what she intends to do, but it needs to be negotiated.

She could have the bed though...

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 7:28pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

sadsy wrote:
had some bad news from Louise, see rant.

On day 4, I begged her to not hurt me anymore out of my tear wet, swollen face.

Why hurt me more?

sy

She'll hurt you more because she can.

Why do you think ex is seeing the children tomorrow? In-laws knew I was planning to go out, and so did the children, as we've been planning it for a week or two.

Could be a fluke, but I think not.

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 7:29pm
Louise
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Yes, sparkling, it is hard NOT to be suspicious.... :x I am shocked :o that you haven't got your birthday cards up. I only took my Mother's Day cards down this week, and they had been up since March :) . Go on, put them up for a couple of days........ ;)

Sy I don't know why you seek to "understand" what Louise is doing and the whys and wherefores of it.......it is something you will probably never have the answer to, just as Paula will also maybe never get to the bottom of what happened with her partner. I guess you will continue to be unpleasantly surprised by what she does during this process, as I know it is hard to think of someone we loved and who we thought loved US,behaving in dreadful ways...

Off to the wishing chair...

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 8:55pm
sadsy

Work tomorrow.
Had lovely message from boss. Today. She'll have me in tears at this rate.

Will be wearing my dead stepdad's trousers, as everything of mine is too big.
Not sure how I feel about it. He was happy to hand me things on when he lived.
Sure he'll be ok with it.

Locksmiths tomorrow lunchtime. Try 3 see what price is.

Estate agent coming next Monday evening. I have 1 week to finish house. sigh

Oh shxt, my tablet!

sy

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 10:24pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

sadsy wrote:
Work tomorrow.
Had lovely message from boss. Today. She'll have me in tears at this rate.

Will be wearing my dead stepdad's trousers, as everything of mine is too big.
Not sure how I feel about it. He was happy to hand me things on when he lived.
Sure he'll be ok with it.

Locksmiths tomorrow lunchtime. Try 3 see what price is.

Estate agent coming next Monday evening. I have 1 week to finish house. sigh

Oh shxt, my tablet!

sy

Sy, I'm sending you a virtual box or two of tissues.

Accept offers of support, and ask for addresses and emails to keep in touch - a bit of "real life" contact. Any of them play badminton?

Wear your step-dad's trousers with pride. I'm sure he'll be with you.

I'll be thinking of you.

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 10:35pm
Pansy

oh dear Sy, we are not having a good time you & me!

I'm sorry you didn't understand my post, I'm not surprised :lol: I read it back & it doesn't make sense to me either!
that is what happens when you have spent to long trying to write it again & again! I dont have much luck with long ones.

I am not even going to try & explain what happened again & what happened today. I got 3 hrs sleep last night & I am falling asleep now, I am so tired but mind still going on, but getting more confused :?

Glad you getting out locksmith, good!!

I went to Dr today had appointment for me & one daughter, although I needed it for both! so gave up my appointment for them. I can put up with Aspergers any day, but I have hidden from the truth re: middle daughter for the whole of her life!
I did not want to think that ALL my children have something wrong but it is apparently very common. Our 13 yr old I think has ODD! lets put it this way she ticks every single box which happens every day & has been since she could talk & walk!
The Dr is sending us to see pediatrician, she said she knows us all well enough to know that I am probably right with this & assured me that the reason I have coped so long is because I am a good parent who knows how to deal with this sort of thing. Which has made me feel better! BuT I am not feeling to good about the fact I left it this long! I guess I just though I'd cope, thought, no not all of them with problems! & just couldn't go through another diganosis!

Anyway, she smashed up bedroom today & punched me & eldest, we had to all go out & leave her to it. All to do with her going with her Dad, she is not going! & there are reasons I wont go into now to tired! she ok now & fine with it & also admitted to Dr what she is like & said she wants help. So its here we go again, but it will be ok now :) I will make sure of it.

Cant write any more tonight. I will end up loosing post. Also my spelling really bad at moment, I cant think when I hurry.

Thanks to you all for messages.
night, night all
Paula x

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 10:51pm
sadsy

Hello Sparkling,
thank you so much.

HR will be trying to get hold of me next week. They want me nominate someone to go into meeting with me, colleague or union.
I might ask for the head of europe to be there. lol.

Children not have much to say tonight, TV distracting them, plus they seen me this weekend. Arwen using word liar tonight in her fantasy family story she makes up on phone. Someone taking her green top? I think the liar reference is Louise reading a copy of my served court forms I suspect. Arwen never used the word before. I don't use it.

Court will be waste of time i think.

sy very tired from stress, need to get my bedding down.

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 10:53pm
sadsy

hello Paulasgems,
big hug and cup of tea for you (and a chocolate cornflake crispy cake thing).

Tough times. Not sure what ODD is. You're such an amazing mum!
You take all things in your stride!

You know, every child has something that makes them unique.
I don't know what normal is? And would anyone want to be normal?
I wouldn't want Luke any other way than he is. I love him. I've told him so.

Wow, daughter said she wants help. That's amazing for 13 year old. She is cool!
You have taught her this ability I am sure.

Have a good, well deserved rest. There will be better days.

You've done soooo well :)

sy

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 11:05pm
Pansy

thank you Sy :D
like your wishing chair thread :D

you need sleep now! Me too!
Goodluck with meeting! & van not turning up & getting trouble, hope locksmith not charge to much.
sweet dreams (weather girl maybe?)
Paula x

Posted on: August 3, 2009 - 11:30pm
sadsy

oh weather girl just a crush.
I'm 'over her' now. Plus my tv not work too well.
So only used for dvds and xbox. I not see her at my place.

sy

Posted on: August 4, 2009 - 4:23am
sadsy

Paulasgems,
is this ODD?
http://www.kidsbehaviour.co.uk/OppositionalDefiantDisorderODD.html
That 2 year old is scary!
sy

Posted on: August 4, 2009 - 4:29am
sadsy

Well been awake since 4.
Off to work now.
Looked up possessions for cohabiting. It could have been so much better with goodwill. There isn't much now.

Quote:
Other assets that were bought or acquired by one cohabitant in their name will belong to them unless
the other cohabitant can show that it was a gift or they had made some contribution. If equal money has
been put in to the asset then it will be owned equally irrespective of whose name it is in.

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/index/family_parent/family/cohabitation_and_marriage_legal_differences.htm#Money_and_possessions

Sorry if I'm being mean to Louise. I have no goodwill.

sy

Posted on: August 4, 2009 - 7:18am
sadsy

also,
i think I am too hairy.
it's £40. not sure i can afford it.

Any theories as to why I can't do a wishlist?

hope you have lovely day!
sy

Posted on: August 4, 2009 - 7:20am
Pansy

THANKS SY!! I had not found that web-site it was a differnt none. YES that is it I'm afraid!

Sorry you didn't sleep well.

which wish list? wishing chair?
if so I'm not surprised you cant do it!
I could only think of the things that I wanted because of what I went through with him, what I mean is e.g cup always full, because I know what it is like living with someone who lives life half empty & moans at silly things & blames everyone else & never takes resposibilty & I only know that I dont want that, but do want someone that has empathy with others & can make me laugh & that I can laugh with even when things go wrong, well as far as anyone can laugh I surpose. someone even to cry with! and someone that if he wants something in life, will go & get it!

Why dont you start with thinking about the things you DONT want. It is very early days anyway Sy!
Take care at work today
Paula x

Posted on: August 4, 2009 - 10:27am
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Cards are up...

Hope today is in someway positve Sy. Don't blame you for not having any goodwill left.

Paula - I'm sorry this is going on. Hope this can help understand and hopefully help with you daughter.

Posted on: August 4, 2009 - 11:22am
Anna
Parenting specialist DoppleMe

Hi sparklinglime

Glad to hear your cards are up, it means you are making a stand and shows the children that it is important to you. It does seem very odd that ex wanted children tonight after everyone else seemed to know that you were going for birthday meal, hmphhh :?

I must read some other posts as I didn't get a chance yesterday as I had to plough through this one, speak to everyone in a bit when I have caught up. :)

Posted on: August 4, 2009 - 12:03pm
sadsy

Hello,
guy to change locks has just left. Did three barrels for £104.
Also I got to hear about all his ailments and disabilities.
Well I did ask about his lobotomy scar!

Too much information today! HR trying to bully me into meeting today.
I told them Thursday. Manager trying to speak with me off the record.
Spoke to ACAS. Spoke to temp agency. Manager take me to see large cats she feeding at lunchtime.

Got counsellor tonight, can't remember what I was supposed to do from last week.

Call children next.

Tired, not eaten.

back later - hope you are happy people.

Might try wishing chair tonight - am scared but don't know why.

love sy

Posted on: August 4, 2009 - 7:37pm
sparklinglime
DoppleMe

Seeing them Thursday will give you time to look at what ACAS has to say. They have a very good and helpful site.

Hope the counsellor can help calm you.

Good the locks are done.

Take care and loads of hugs.

Posted on: August 4, 2009 - 8:06pm
sadsy

Thank you sparkling:

I'm going to find a poem for you each day as it's your birthday week:

There are times only when a Mother's love
Can understand our tears,
Can soothe our disappointments
And calm all our fears.

There are times when only a Mother's Love
Can share the joy we feel
When something we've dreamed about
Quite suddenly is real.

There are times when only a Mother's faith
Can help on life's way
And inspire in us the confidence
We need from day to day.

For a Mother's heart and a Mother's faith
And a Mother's steadfast love
Were fashioned by the Angels
And sent from God above...

huug
sy

Posted on: August 4, 2009 - 9:35pm
Pansy

thanks Sparkling, yes I'm afraid I have ignored it for years with this daughter. When she was younger I looked up ADHD, but didn't think it all sounded like her, although alot of it did. I left it. Then first my eldest we found out had Aspergers whilst going for the diagnosis for her we realised our son MUST have it too, so then he went & all the time me & ex were thinking but middle one is worst than other two put together!!! I didn't want to mention it to Dr, I thought I cant have 3 all with something wrong, but apparently I can!
It is not Aspergers, but a year ago I came across ODD on a web-site & when I read through it all I just broke down in tears, not sure if it was relief or not, but rather than do something about it I thought well we have coped (not) all this time so we will just carry on.
Yea right! that was a mistake. There is no way I am blaming her here but she never helped! You see ODD involves alot of manipulation & there is hardly ever any guilt. They are renowned for getting people fighting because of it, often with Grandparents, teachers & obviously partners!
I'm relieved I have now done something about it!

Sy,
glad you got your locks done, not bad price really for 3.
hope counsellor went ok!
Paula x

Posted on: August 4, 2009 - 9:54pm
Pansy

Lovely poem :D

Posted on: August 4, 2009 - 9:56pm