hello
I have a headache now...
Sunday,
looking forward to drunken and embarrassing posts from you!
I have to sleep now. Driving for hours again tomorrow.
My baby arwen is coming back!
sy
ps, hope court order doesn't turn up there in morning ahead of me!
Ah... Get there early :D
Drive carefully Sy. I'll be thinking of you.
xxx
I'm sorry I havn't posted, I'm not much good to anyone right now. Really sorry. I have caught up with the thread now though & thought I should show my face, (well you know what I mean) , glad you seeing kids Sy & seem to have kept your wonderful humour after the shock at work.
Sparkling, hope you have a fantastic birthday! :D
wish I could offer more to you both, instead of going on about myself!
It has just been so hectic here, my three challenging children have all been at their most challenging & I am so worn out that I wouldn't even know where to begin! and because of it I have had no choice but to talk to ex (that is the first time I have put ex instead of husband!) & I am finding it hard. I have found that everytime I talk to friends & say out loud the words 'I know that I am actually better off without him' I cry & then start doubting it.
I look at my difficult life with my children, no career, because they have been it! living in social housing or whatever they call it now (not that anyone would know, lovely village house, most neighbours have brought theirs) not that any of this has ever bothered me before. 42 yrs old & overweight!, dont know how to have fun anymore, probably havn't for years! because I have been busy with my FOUR (I am including him!). I have been set free & I dont know what to do ABOUT ME & I suddenly feel very frightened. I am really missing a strong pair of arms around me & to be loved, but to be honest I'm not that sure I have had that for ages anyway.
I cant imagine how I am going to have another relationship with anyone now, not after how I have changed over the years, I feel quite worthless.
I am really sorry, yes I am feeling sorry for myself but this is how I am feeling at this moment in time. I will probably be ok tomorrow. I apologise for being so glum. I will try to get my humour back by tomorrow.
Paula x
Oh Paulasgems,
so sorry I couldn't wait up any longer to see your post. I've been really worried about you. I knew something was up.
You are not worthless. You are a very loving and caring person who any right minded guy would covet and treasure. You have given absolutely everything to your relationship. It takes two though, to keep things going. Because you have given so much, it is harder to let go. 17 years, give yourself time.
You have talked to ex! Look how courageous and strong you are. I bet you were amazingly self controlled and self sacrificing too.
There is a very fun spirit in you. I have no worries about you meeting someone. Just not now. You need to look after YOU.
Feeling frightened, yes I had that, in fact when I woke at 5, I woke frightened. You are feeling the freedom of choice that is emerging and the unknown of the future. Try not to look too far ahead while you are healing. Just get through one day.
I know it's lonely. There will be strong arms around you in the future. But not now. As you know, I hug the pillow, maybe it will help a tiny bit for you too?
You need support now, don't worry about us. In my early posts, the word "worthless" comes up a few times. I have to get quite stern with you on this. Worthless is the absolute opposite to all that I have had the privilege to learn from you. I'm very lucky to have bumped into you in my life.
Even when you are down, you recognise that tomorrow will be better. You are such a star!
Re overweight. If you wish to be slimmer, I know you can do it. However, better to be kind to yourself at the moment. Also, all your clothes wouldn't fit. Very expensive.
Loving and being there for your children is the very best and most naturally rewarding thing to do. Careers are bit empty. No need to apologise for being glum. You are fabulous whatever way you are. Also, Sparkling is posting drunk on Sunday night, so there is something to look forward to, hehe.
love
sy xx
satyr lady.
I know where she came from!
will tell later.
sy
Sparkling
HAPPY BIRTHDAY FOR THIS WEEKEND! I have done that in a nice lime colour for you. Hope you enjoy the day and the celebrations. I, for one, would also like to take this opportunity to thank you for the fantastic support you give to other members of One Space!
Hello Paula
You are doing sooooooo well. How do I know? I know because I have watched you going through so many different stages in this horrible process and after the anger comes this, the rock bottom, the "worthless" feeling. You will see by past posts that Sy went through this too.........and it is the thought that "this really IS rock bottom" that can keep you going now. If this is the worst and you are living it and just about keeping your head above water then YEY! you have done it, you are conquering the worst. I guess it may feel like you are floundering in a big pond without a float for quite some time but we will be here, cheering you on from the sidelines. It's natural that you want someone to lean on, you have been to hell and back and you haven't had anyone to lean on for a very long time. But you are not worthless and never will be, you are a fabulous person who has coped with so much and your kids are lucky to have such a great Mum...
Sy
Ok I will wait to hear the origins of the satyr lady heh heh.
Got a suggestion for you, there is an excellent book for children of Arwen's age, I don't know why I didn't think of it before. It is called "Two Homes" and is by Claire Masurel and Kady MacDonald Denton. You can get it from Amazon and it is only a couple of pounds. it explains all about the business of children having two homes in a little story with pictures. Children like books that seem to be about their lives.
You made me laugh my socks off about the Quorn society :lol:
thank you louise,
i have to rush to nanny, arwen and luke.
will have a look tonight at book, thanks.
sy
Paulasgems,
big huug for you
Will check you are OK from Nanny's this afternoon.
Bet today will be better for you!
sy
I'm sorry I havn't posted, I'm not much good to anyone right now. Really sorry. I have caught up with the thread now though & thought I should show my face, (well you know what I mean) , glad you seeing kids Sy & seem to have kept your wonderful humour after the shock at work.
Sparkling, hope you have a fantastic birthday! :D
wish I could offer more to you both, instead of going on about myself!
It has just been so hectic here, my three challenging children have all been at their most challenging & I am so worn out that I wouldn't even know where to begin! and because of it I have had no choice but to talk to ex (that is the first time I have put ex instead of husband!) & I am finding it hard. I have found that everytime I talk to friends & say out loud the words 'I know that I am actually better off without him' I cry & then start doubting it.
I look at my difficult life with my children, no career, because they have been it! living in social housing or whatever they call it now (not that anyone would know, lovely village house, most neighbours have brought theirs) not that any of this has ever bothered me before. 42 yrs old & overweight!, dont know how to have fun anymore, probably havn't for years! because I have been busy with my FOUR (I am including him!). I have been set free & I dont know what to do ABOUT ME & I suddenly feel very frightened. I am really missing a strong pair of arms around me & to be loved, but to be honest I'm not that sure I have had that for ages anyway.
I cant imagine how I am going to have another relationship with anyone now, not after how I have changed over the years, I feel quite worthless.
I am really sorry, yes I am feeling sorry for myself but this is how I am feeling at this moment in time. I will probably be ok tomorrow. I apologise for being so glum. I will try to get my humour back by tomorrow.
Paula x
Hi Paula
Loads of hugs. To be fair, why shouldn’t you phone your ex if you need help with the children? If he’s half decent he will be happy you phoned for help.
I’m going to go on about me too – sorry… I was 42 when I was on my own – fat, forty, four kids and f…. well, it’s a word I don’t use often, but do in this case!
I used to have my own place. Had to be sold to sell of ex’s debts, and now I have a lovely house – social housing, with a housing association. It’s lovely. Great neighbours (ok, mixed up with some not so nice ones).
I don’t worry about having my own place anymore. I will not move again. Any problems, I don’t have to worry if I can afford the repairs. That’s a relief.
My children are my life – and again – that’s right, isn’t it?. I’ve been on benefits since I’ve been on my own. Ok, I hate this bit really! Yet, in my situation, I just can’t get around it. I’ve been doing OU courses though, as I feel it’s something for me. In Wales, I get a grant too – which helps, and is an incentive to carry on studying. (I moan lots about it though)
I no longer feel worthless, and no longer hate myself. There are days I even like myself. I think it took me about four years to get to that point.
As for a relationship – I crave for a ‘best friend’ really – my best friend died on 30 April 2007. I miss her. She knew me inside out – and I don’t have anyone now who knew me as well as she did. Me and the children it is for now. A relationship, for me, is just far too complicated.
You have every right to feel sorry for yourself. It’s far from easy.
I hope today will be a better day. I hope your children have some sunshine – which cheers them up. There’s sun here (hurrah) and my son with special needs is so much happier already.
Take care.
:( I'm sorry about your friend Sparkling, that is so sad! especially as you were soo close & she knew you so well.
thank you for your words, it is a great help & yours always are too Sy!
I am feeling better today, but not sure if it is good or not :roll: as, like Sy said a while ago, I now seem to be on a bit of a high! I have found myself dreaming of being in a loving new relationship :o I must be crazy! :?
I am not really the sort of person to be on my own without a man in my life. I need a partner to share my life with, but dont worry I'm not going to rush into finding myself a man. I wouldn't want to go looking anyway. If it happens it happens but kids & me come first!
I'm just a bit bothered by my highs & lows, wern't you like this a while back Sy?, I seem to remember you going on about kissing :lol: . Is it normal ? am I in a new stage? :roll:
Are you having a good birthday Sparkling? or is it tomorrow?
Sy thinks you are going to give a drunken post, that is only because really, he would like to :lol: I may have some wine tonight as it is weekend. sorry Sy ;)
Paula x
I'm having a really good day, thank you - although tomorrow is my birthday! Ex-step-mother-in-law has called in with a cake and a card, and flowers chosen by ex-father-in-law! My friend, who does the Cubs with me has come with a card and present, and my son's friend has been in with a card and flowers too!
I'm stunned!
I still might make a cake tomorrow- but a small one!
I'm sipping sparkling water and elderberry cordial - no Roses Lime cordial, again. :roll: This is quite nice though. I should go and look at wine and cider and decide - knowing me, I won't be able to justify the cost and not get either! :lol:
Glad today is a better day.
xxx
Can't help but wonder who Sy has at home...
Hello Paula
You are doing sooooooo well. How do I know? I know because I have watched you going through so many different stages in this horrible process and after the anger comes this, the rock bottom, the "worthless" feeling. You will see by past posts that Sy went through this too.........and it is the thought that "this really IS rock bottom" that can keep you going now. If this is the worst and you are living it and just about keeping your head above water then YEY! you have done it, you are conquering the worst. I guess it may feel like you are floundering in a big pond without a float for quite some time but we will be here, cheering you on from the sidelines. It's natural that you want someone to lean on, you have been to hell and back and you haven't had anyone to lean on for a very long time. But you are not worthless and never will be, you are a fabulous person who has coped with so much and your kids are lucky to have such a great Mum...
Thanks Louise :)
It is nice to know that I am going through normal stuff that everyone else does too, e.g the worthlessness!
Paula x
, and my son's friend has been in with a card and flowers too!
that is soooo lovely, he must think you are a great Mum to your son! which of course you are :D
Can't help but wonder who Sy has at home...
Have I misse :? d something????? I dont understand
oh I cant get the hang of this quote thing! I keep mucking it up.
hello,
can't read anything, no time. Hope you are OK Paulasgems.
Will try tonight. Arwen with me.
Car broke down.
love
sy
Thank goodness Arwen is with you.
I'll dance around the kitchen later. Hurray, hurray, hurray!!!
Paula - I was hoping Arwen was going to be with Sy and Luke tonight. :)
Sorry about the car sy.
My best birthday present so far - special offer on servicing my Renualt :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
(yes - hysterical laughter!).
Have an absolutely wonderful time. DO NOT panic if she starts to miss anyone. Distraction and lots of fun...
xxxx
I'm so tired. I can go to bed happy now!
Sparkling, DO NOT talk to me about cars :x I drove a fair distance yesterday and the red lights were flashing all over the dashboard, been to garage (again..... I think I will buy a tent and just camp there :lol: ) Anyway they have changed the oil and filter and think it should be Ok if the oil pressure holds up, will check with them later in week. Have a lovely evening and HB for the morning! I am glad you got some cards and prezzies already, you deserve them!
Sy, Glad you have Arwen there, hope it all goes well :)
Paula, enjoy your Saturday wine. The thing about who Sy has with him was about whether he got both kids. Hope everyone is Ok in your house.
Gemma, look after yourself, you are doing so well and it's great that you have joined us
Oh no Louise! Not your car too!! I hope it will be ok. Nightmare when they conk out.
Thank you :D Youngest is making a card by my side and asking for hints with spelling. :roll: I'll leave him to it in a mo.
Take care
Soo tired.
My Espace was leaking water by time I got to my mum's, so I transferred all the bags into my stepdad's car started up to go and battery was flat. So I got an enormous set of jumper leads I got from ebay and woke an old mechanic from his sleep and asked which way round they went. Then, connected up and started other car and let it run for 20 mins to charge it up.
Drove up through hellish traffic with mum. Got there 1 hour late, not bad. Then offloaded loads of bags of louise lovely dresses and jackets I bought her. Arwen ran to me with open arms, like in the movies!
Drove for hours to swim place, Arwen not swimming, so not so good for luke as we could not do all stuff he likes. I carry arwen and prevent drowning! She launch herself into water!
Back to nanny's for food and total wipeout. Then fill water tank and drive home watching temp gauge.
I got them into bed. Luke wants to sneak down later. I'll allow it, as he has been very responsible at the pool. I told him how proud I was of him.
Lots of post when I got back
Two solicitor letters from Louise.
Further to our letter of the 14th July, we are aware further discussions have taken place between parties and our client confirms this weekend, 1st of August 2009, she is happy that Arwen accompanies Luke for contact, being picked up with him at 10am on Saturday, returning on Sunday at 3.30pm, or if Arwen has settled a bit later if you wish. It is hoped that if Arwen settles that this pattern can continue fortnightly.
Just for the records I guess.
The other letter is, I get the house and debt signed over to me entirely or I must sell up and be homeless it seems.
Further to our previous correspondance, our client has now intructed us with regards to the position concerning the property you shared with our client at xxxxxxxx. The property remains in joint names and our client has indicated that she is agreeable for the property to be transferred into your sole name at this stage subject of course to you taking over sole liability for the mortgage. If you are not agreeable then the property should be placed on the market to be sold at the first opportunity to minimise losses to both of you.
Please confirm which option you prefer to proceed with so the matter can be concluded without further animosity.
Bit fed up now. :cry:
Luke has sneaked down and we are starting eragon in a mo.
Not sure I can take much more pressure. I guess I'll ask for clarification on a couple of points to play for time. They did not respond to my last letter. This time I'll make it clearer that I expect a response.
sy
Hello,
have persuaded Luke to go back to bed, as it would not be nice for arwen to find him sleeping with me in the morning. Not fair.
He has been very good about it and gone to bed.
Now I can see if you are all OK.
sy
Paulasgems,
yes! I had a very intense wanting to share my life with someone again. Longing really. Everyone here tell me I'm not ready, grrr. And none fancy me anyhow.
As you saw, did get craving for kissing recently. Yes, maybe it is a stage? I'm not out of it yet.
You have devoted much of your energy for many years to looking after your ex. Now there's a hole there. Natural to want to fill it again I guess. It was part of who you were? That part of you could now go into looking after YOU? Sounds good to me. What things that you liked doing that you gave up for him could you bring back into your life?
love
sy
Sparkling,
Instead of counting candles,
Or tallying the years,
Contemplate your blessings now,
As your birthday nears.
Consider special people
Who love you, and who care,
And others who’ve enriched your life
Just by being there.
Think about the memories
Passing years can never mar,
Experiences great and small
That have made you who you are.
Another year is a happy gift,
So cut your cake, and say,
"Instead of counting birthdays,
I count blessings every day!"
I didn't write it though...
Have a very happy birthday.
Looking forward to your post on Sunday night, muuhahaha [evil laugh]
sy
Paulasgems,
yes! I had a very intense wanting to share my life with someone again. Longing really. Everyone here tell me I'm not ready, grrr. And none fancy me anyhow.
As you saw, did get craving for kissing recently. Yes, maybe it is a stage? I'm not out of it yet.
You have devoted much of your energy for many years to looking after your ex. Now there's a hole there. Natural to want to fill it again I guess. It was part of who you were? That part of you could now go into looking after YOU? Sounds good to me. What things that you liked doing that you gave up for him could you bring back into your life?
love
sy
I dont think it is going to be a stage with me either! I am not the sort to be happy on my own, I need someone to share my life with other than my kids. In one sense I'm not lonley or bored because I have them but I am desperate for love in my life. I probably havn't been loved for a few years & I've felt it!
Even male company would be nice, to have a good male friend. see this is what I mean, I have lots of fantastic women friends but it is not the same. :roll:
so glad you have got Arwen with you Sy, how fantastic!! I dont know why I didn't get what Sparkling said earlier :oops: I couldn't think, nothing new there then!
you will never guess what!! :x my car has started loosing water AGAIN!!!!!!! after I have spent over 2,000 for new head & gasket, also radiator! I so hate it :twisted: & it has to go, we can cope with 5 seats now there are only 4 anyhow, so I will save petrol. I get smaller car ASAP!
Paula x
Hellooo Paulagems,
wow you on late.
Yes, I need someone to love too. I really not comfortable with the thought of being on my own for years on end. I don't think you have been loved for years either and that is very sad and unfair. I guess love has no guarantees (it is 3 in the morning after all :lol: ). Nice to be able to make a tea or coffee for a partner, or massage sore feet. Or there is the smack the bottom game. This is fully clothed, and can occur at any time in the day. Objective is to smack eachothers bottom and avoid having your own smacked. It results in lots of feints and twirling round and round, blocking, changing of smacking arm, and leaping sideways, fake "I'm finished now then 'smaaaack' hehe". "That's cheating!". Oh well, it amused me.
Luke is disturbed in his sleep tonight. Not sure what's bothering him. He say he feel unwell, but nothing specific. He may worry about going back Sunday. He keep getting punished about asking why on Louise's contact regime. She make him sit on prickly doormat, not sure she realises. Or, it's the solicitors letters, he wanted to know what they mean and look at them.
Re car: ouch! head, gasket and radiator? Radiators tend to go with age, or if design fault (like exposed to flying stones coming through bodywork gaps). If radiator again, may be under warranty? You'll save petrol/diesel with 2 wheel drive car. Try not to get anything smaller than a saloon size, as crash protection not as good on smaller cars http://www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/ncap/ncap_home.jsp. Less flexible for holidays too. Crash test does not indicate reliability though. If you look at a used car, make sure cambelt has been changed at 50k miles, if they snap, engine trashed.
£2,000 seems alot considering you can get a whole engine fitted for £1,200 ish. I need to see where my leak is on Espace, access is poor.
I was going to make a new One Space room. Maybe "My next partner room" or similar and it would be where you would describe the attributes of your next partner and what things you would like them to do when sharing a life with you. What do you think?
re the kissing thing: well yes, Louise never kiss me much, except when we first met. Feel I have missed out on something lovely.
Was it on "When Harry met Sally" where they argued whether there is such a thing as a simple male friend? Often poor male friend fancies female friend like mad secretly and has to watch her date guys and suffer quietly for fear of losing what little contact he has. Poor thing!
I need to sleep.
Huuug for you
sy
Happy
Birthday
Sparkling!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SPARKLING! :D
SY,
Re: Luke, Is it possible that you could gently remind Louise that because of his Aspergers knowing WHEN contact is, is going to be difficult for him. I realise that maybe she is not telling him when because of the fallout if it then had to be changed, but because of his Aspergers this is why he needs to know & if he is anything like my son he will keep asking because he has not understood when WHEN is, so could you suggest to her she do a pictute time table with PECS ? so he can see when seeing Daddy will come exactly in his week.
Thank you for making me laugh again :lol: :lol: :lol: bottom smaking.
thanks too for the car link!
Are you taking the kids back today? hope all goes well, fingers crossed for car or are you using your Mum's?
well hope all goes well anyway :D
Paula x
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SPARKLING LIME!
Sy
Glad you got both children overnight, hope they both settled Ok in the end.
Re Luke knowing about contact, one thing I suggest with younger children (and which works a treat :) ) is for the child to have a calendar where they cross the days off at bedtime and on the day they are going to see Mummy or Daddy, they put a sticker on that day. That way, even young children can see clearly "how many sleeps". Now I know Luke is older but if routine is very, very important to him because of his condition then it might help him too.......or Awen could do I and he could peep at it every day.
If you start a "My next partner" thread, that would be good, it could go in the Relationships room
Paula
Sorry about your car....I think there is a jinx about: you, me, Sy and sparkling have ALL had car trouble of late. Maybe it is those naughty Quorns sabotaging our travel plans? :D
Happy
Birthday
Sparkling!
thank you very much.
Can't bear to part with money for alcohol. I might get the wine out. We'll have a good evening, though I'm sure, once the older two are home from work and camp!
thank you.
Hope you're having a lovely time!!
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SPARKLING! :D
Paula x
Thank you very much :D
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SPARKLING LIME!
Thank you so much Louise.
I'll have to change my name to sparklingelderberry - can't seem to get the 'nice' lime anymore :o Elderberry is rather nice though...
whaaaat! Sparkling!
No drunken posts from you tonight! I've been so looking forward to an uninhibited, uncontrolled Sparklinglime. :(
What about sparkling rose, £4.99 or Frome cider £1.65 or chilled fruity white wine and bag of ice to sit it in £3.99 + 75p.
Sigh, Sparkling, it's your turn now!
If there was a way I'd send you money for your celebration drink. You deserve it. I also have a champers bottle needing a good home.
sy
Re bottom smacking game,
reckon I could win against Sparkling, specially if she on crutches! hehehe.
Not sure how nimble Paulasgems is. I'm pretty good at it. Paulasgems learns quick though...
Would worry about taking on Zane26, she too sturdy and tough, reckon I might lose badly and not be able to sit for a while. :o
Desperately trying to be cheerful tonight. Kids gone. Empty beds. Eaten all their Percy Pig sweets.
Louise had sex with Paul this weekend, how do I see these things from 30 secs of eye avoidance and furtive standing? Why does it bother me? He's so ugly too.
I almost see the funny side of unexpectedly synchronising exchanging legal correspondence this weekend.
Can't write about weekend yet. Getting that, "it's coming to an end soon" feeling with kids contact. When money runs out. Fight in court for more contact, when I won't be able to afford existing contact anyhow. What a waste of everyone's time it will be.
sy
hello Sy! :D
did u have good time with kids?
& was Louise ok?
Sy,
did you have to travel to London for your work?
I forgot how close Kent is to London, well some places.
I used to spend so much of my childhood in Kent as my Nan used to live there. It was on the Isle of Sheppey.
Such a small Island, do you know it ? well you probably do being as you live in Kent. My Nan lived in Minster
just down the road from the beach, I used to love going exploring up minster hill. My Nan is 92 now! but still has
a younger sister that lives there on the Island, I should take her there one day I havn't been for years!!
There are some nice places in Kent that I remember. I do LOVE it here in Dorset though!
If you are not far from London maybe you will be able to find work again easier? Is it possible you could be
self employed with what you do?
Paula
Hello Paulasgems,
I think I'll end up in London again.
I temped there for years.
I can't stay up for Sparkling's post. Very tired.
Will look up your hill memory. 92 that is amazing.
Hope you are happy tonight Paulasgems.
love
sy
I was until my daughter told me 2 mins ago that Dad had just told her girlfriend is 25 yrs old!
that explains the very rude text I had from her the other night! she hasn't got a clue about life or family or kids because she has no kids & is only 25! Great, now my kids are going to end up with half brothers or sisters!
I am so upset now :cry: all the pain back, I dont understand why he went!
Oooh Paulasgems,
they only been together 4-5 weeks?
Steady. They only just coming up on first big argument (takes a month usually?). How long does he last between episodes of demanding behaviour? Then add a little bit for "halo effect". I think unlikely to have children at this time. Yes you are right, she won't understand the dynamics of family or children. You can factor this in now to any of your plans or communication and maybe have to state what you would regard as obvious.
Please don't torture yourself Paulasgems, don't like to think of you in pain.
You won't understand his reasons for leaving, because you are not him. I wonder if I assumed the things I could live with in my relationship, were also things my ex should cope with, and she did the same with me?
It's still very early and raw for you. You are healing, it takes a bit longer though, after 17 years of commitment.
Also, it's horrible to think ex is happy when it so miserable for you at moment. You will have a better day tomorrow.
I'm miserable too if it helps! At least he didn't take your children away!
biiiig looong huuug for you
sy
Also Paulasgems,
forgot to say how lovely you are and what a wonderful mum.
I haven't overlooked your advice on posts earlier.
Just too tired to think at moment.
night night
sy
I'm not getting out of bed today.
sy
Sorry, I'm such a big baby. Fed up today.
sy
aaaand I waited for Sparkling's drunken post.
aaand I've read that domestic violence leaflet.
Am fed up. Did I control too much? Am so confused.
Was I controlled too much? Do women abuse men is same way?
Leaflet seems to be for ladies. I just put up with being controlled, thought it was part of relationship.
I don't think I should be reading leaflet today. Bit wobbly.
Abuse, whether domestic or otherwise, takes place with both sexes....and then of course there is the recent publicity about elder abuse, so it comes in many shapes and forms, including the intimidation that zane has been through this weekend. I wouldn't worry too much about it, Sy, surely if Louise really thought that of you then she would not let you have anything to do with the children?
So it is back to work tomorrow and you have today to get through in the meantime. I understand that you are sad when the children leave but please don't spoil your time with them by dwellig on this sadness, think of the nice things you have done together and the good memories stored up instead.
Fresh air today, and that's an order! You have to keep being a good role model for those quorns, we're all counting on you :?
I am so frustrated I have now lost two posts! :cry: one at 3 in morning in rant room, really long! I just cried when lost it & one here lost again, this time I saved but when I went to drafts it was not there!
Oh Sy, I'm so sorry, I know I have my kids. you are a fantstic Dad & should have yours too! I dont know what our ex's are doing I think they are making up stories in heads to ease their guilt & justify their actions!
You are a lovely man, so thoughtful & caring & funny :D I dont know how you can be treated like this :x
I done a silly thing :oops: It was all going so well until then. Eldest & youngest was talking to ex on phone at last! i was too & he said how nice it was to talk to me. we arranged him coming here this week to see kids & take 13 yr old back with him.
Then 13 yr old came in to say 'she' 25 & Dad asked her what she thinks about it! so 'I' tell him in text what 'I' think about it :oops: (result of not being told anything by him all this time! & then he blurts things out to them!)
Girlfriend text me! back to my text to HIM! I text her back & him! daughter phone him, angry girlfriend text me & upset me. I didn't know she was doing it, she made it worst because she said things, I still dont know what. Girldriend now thinks I am trying to turn them against Dad! telling me I have given them one story that untrue. I have not given them any story cause I dont know anything still!! :x
None of this makes any sense to me things dont add up at all, either she is playing games trying to cause trouble between me & ex & kids OR he has told pack of lies about me to make himself look good.
I have told him I am changing mobile & no longer comm by text with him & that he will need to phone me on landline if he needs to speak. I have made it clear he still welcome here & that he should come to sort things out face to face. Also made clear I do not use children, & do not give them any stories!
I dont know what to do now daughter still wants to go but I am concerned by this womans reaction to things & also his reaction to her interfearance. could he still be drinking, her too. I no longer have any trust & do not think daughter should go but dont know if I can stop her?
Sy I'm ready to listen to you now, I wont go on about me.
Paula x
Paula and Louise,
I'm emerging from my bed cocoon.
Sorry I'm really pathetic today.
Bit annoyed with myself for bothering you all with it.
You've both been really kind and generous.
sy
The Killers are on Sky. The children are in the kitchen with me now. Gawd help the neighbours!